I'm using Minato jonin (bond)- Obito Jikukan (Mad 5ks) - Fire main - Kurenai for a while now, and when the opponent got hit by the combo, the debuffs are in this order: tag, paralize, acupunture, chaos, ignite, poison. But when i face water cancer, I target the main, and after gakido attacks and sailor sakura (now cloak) heals (they doesn't have their mys that round), water main can chase again.
So I wonder how the priority of the debuff cleanse works, which makes me test all of them and I come up with this board. (I simplify down to 2 debuffs)
What I notice is like this: when you got slow and acu, acu clears first (acu > slow), sleep and acu, sleep clears first (sleep>acu), which should means sleep>slow... but when i tested it, slow is cleared first (on both cases, affected 1st or 2nd), I tested for a few times and still same result, and there's more like it...
So am I doing it wrong or the debuffs are intentionally made to be cleared like that?
*When I scroll through the "Cause status" tab in "Ninja", Dream appears, so I just put it in, hoping it's Itachi Edotensei's mys... yea I waited so long for him xD
*Update (Oct 9th): My friend Kuebiko sums up our test and comes up with a *cough* scientific *cough* result. See the thread here.
Hi! That is a lot of work you did there and it is actually quite good xD
I will try my best to explain how debuffs work. So one of the ways to better understand buffs is to rank them.
Rank 1: Paralysis and Slow
Rank 2: Acupuncture and Blindness
Rank 3: Immobile, Chaos, and Sleeping
Rank 4: Lower Resistance and Defense
Rank 5: Ignite and Poison
Rank 6: Imprison and Tag
Rules
Rule 1: Debuff of a higher rank (For example: Rank 1 is higher than Rank 2) will be removed first (if the cleanse used does not remove all the debuffs at once).
Ex.: If Paralysis and Acupuncture was applied, Paralysis will be removed first.
Rule 2: If you have debuffs of the same Rank, for example Immobile and Sleeping, the debuff that was applied on the ninja last will be removed first.
Ex.: If Paralysis is applied and then Slow, Slow will be removed first.
Think of it as layers of an onion or toppings on a pizza, you gotta remove the top layer before you can remove the bottom layer (easily anyways, probably can find some obscure way to bypass this xD).
Rule 3: Debuffs that are reapplied will not change the order of which it was applied first.
Ex.: If Poison was applied and then Ignite, and then Poison again. Ignite will still be removed first.
Rule 4: Chaos and Immobile cannot co-exist from Rank 3 cannot co-exist.
Ex.: if Immobile was applied and then Chaos, Immobile will be removed.
~Jib
Hopefully that helps. This is a great example of how the community can come together into better understanding things like debuffs =p Keep up the great work!
Credits to this guide.
Oh i understand now... tks a lot!!! <3
I have an advanced question in regards to the ordering of debuffs applied.
Scenario is Jounin Minato, with 3-in-1 Mystery + Azure Fang Poison Tai.
Which debuff gets applied first... Poison, Tag or Paralysis?
when 3-in-1 mys get triggered, tag will be applied 1st, then paralize, but since u got poison tai, poison maybe applied first because the dmg u cause is taijutsu. But paralize will be cleared first because it's at a higher rank.
gg i was going to check my list against yours y u go post first -3-
there's still some discrepancies between our lists i hope to check. *cough*slow-acu*cough* (this seems to be an error on my part tbh, but i'll repeat that data set like...later...in the distant future...once i'm done with the rest of the debuffs lol)
funny thing btw, despite your ranking list @jib, immobile and slow seem to be on the same tier. when i'm clearing 1 layer of debuffs, the last debuff applied (between slow and immobile) gets removed first. u can a'lso see this in yujin's list. again for both our lists, blindness was cleared before slow (in the case where blindness is applied after slow) even though you've ranked blindness to be a lower priority clear than slow.
add: immobile and paralysis are definitely on the same tier.
also a fun fact i noticed while testing: there are only 3 ninjas capable of casting prompt round 1 chaos. itachi susanoo, ino swimsuit, and aoneko XD
There's my friends xD
someone has to post it hahaha xD
Yes it's true, I test it again and blindness still got cleared first.
and *cough* who uses slow anyway lol ? *cough*
wait for meeeee
slow is an underrated debuff pls
i'll publish my list with yours as reference in a couple days time. gotta write a real scientific report with evidence and sources of error HAHAHA
My pleasure...
and... just take your time... i'll wait xD
ignite always gets removed before poison.
use a fire main high chase combo with koh, poison is applied last and removed last.
use a water main with poison tai and itachi, poison is applied first and removed last. shark bomb with kd to high chase then itachi will chase for ignite
i think it was coded to do this because ignite stops healing, poison doesn't, so this is the better order for healers who are the majority of cleansers anyway. if you had 2 healers who cleanse 1 debuff each then its better for them to cleanse ignite with no healing then poison and heal instead of poison and no healing then ignite and no healing.
The first case, cos chase always come first, than summon, so poison should be cleared first.
The second case, if u use shark bomb it wont cause poison cos shark bomb is pure nin, then charka blade to cause high will poison, itachi chase will only cause ignite cos it is pure nin, my conclusion is ignite got cleared first.
In one of your cases, ignite got cleared first, but all of them are still correct according to my board. So if you make another test where poison is applied last, then u'll see for yourself.
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