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gg i was going to check my list against yours y u go post first -3-
there's still some discrepancies between our lists i hope to check. *cough*slow-acu*cough* (this seems to be an error on my part tbh, but i'll repeat that data set like...later...in the distant future...once i'm done with the rest of the debuffs lol)
funny thing btw, despite your ranking list @jib, immobile and slow seem to be on the same tier. when i'm clearing 1 layer of debuffs, the last debuff applied (between slow and immobile) gets removed first. u can a'lso see this in yujin's list. again for both our lists, blindness was cleared before slow (in the case where blindness is applied after slow) even though you've ranked blindness to be a lower priority clear than slow.
add: immobile and paralysis are definitely on the same tier.
also a fun fact i noticed while testing: there are only 3 ninjas capable of casting prompt round 1 chaos. itachi susanoo, ino swimsuit, and aoneko XD
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- YujinTakara On 2018-10-08 23:59:21
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There's my friends xD
someone has to post it hahaha xD
Yes it's true, I test it again and blindness still got cleared first.and *cough* who uses slow anyway lol ? *cough*
wait for meeeee
slow is an underrated debuff pls
i'll publish my list with yours as reference in a couple days time. gotta write a real scientific report with evidence and sources of error HAHAHA
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- Jiburiru On 2018-10-09 00:13:33
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Oooh, would definitely have to check/test this theory myself. Thanks for pointing it out =] Will update if I find out anything.
~Jib
we previously searched for debuff tier lists but more often than not there were inaccuracies...so what better thing to do than to test it ourselves XD
go go test! more data hahahaha
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- Dresq On 2018-10-09 00:30:58
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Right, I know. Was meaning more in that if an attack applies multiple debuffs at the 'same time', how would they be ordered. Jounin Minato is a bad example I guess, as his applied debuffs are not the same rank. So lets ask a different way.
Nina XYZ uses Mystery. It applies Paralysis and because it has a Skill Experiment/Breakthrough/Bond, it also applies Slowness.
Would it be applying Paralysis first, as it is 'natural' to the skill, or would the newly added Slowness apply first?
Another scenario is Ramen Naruto and his standard attack, with Poison Tai. If he procs his combo, which is applied first, Ignition or Poison?
dres why don't u help us test hahaha
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- Scarlettblue On 2018-10-09 17:07:41
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Used to be as you said jib, but I've used for too long the ay3rd me
ta to know that is not anymore true. Right now paralysis and the hard controlling debuffs are on the same tier. Happens too many time to see immobile removed while paralysis stay. P. S. Immobile, sleep and chaos are mutually exclusive. If you apply sleep on a target immobilized then immobile gets removed and substituted by sleep, so if an enemy wake you up you don't go back being immobilized.
sleep and immobile don't override each other.
sleep and chaos, immobile and chaos. these pairs will cancel out, but not sleep and immobile
you can actually test this out easily on kakashi, putting fire main at pos1, a tai-standard at pos2 and shikamaru in pos3. cast immobile on kakashi, allow your fire main to cast sleep after that. the pos2 tai standard will remove the sleep, but not the immobile.
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- YujinTakara On 2018-10-09 13:53:14
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My pleasure...
and... just take your time... i'll wait xD
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- Shadoblaze On 2018-10-12 22:40:06
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ignite always gets removed before poison.
use a fire main high chase combo with koh, poison is applied last and removed last.
use a water main with poison tai and itachi, poison is applied first and removed last. shark bomb with kd to high chase then itachi will chase for ignite
i think it was coded to do this because ignite stops healing, poison doesn't, so this is the better order for healers who are the majority of cleansers anyway. if you had 2 healers who cleanse 1 debuff each then its better for them to cleanse ignite with no healing then poison and heal instead of poison and no healing then ignite and no healing.
actually poison is removed first in your first example :)
and poison is removed second in your second example because that's the algorithmic nature of same-tier debuffs
if you can provide evidence where poison is removed last in your first scenario i'd gladly have a discussion with you, but all 3 threads of 5.0 debuffs have so far proven you otherwise. there's no need to even speculate on the coding.
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