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Hi! That is a lot of work you did there and it is actually quite good xD
I will try my best to explain how debuffs work. So one of the ways to better understand buffs is to rank them.
Rank 1: Paralysis and Slow
Rank 2: Acupuncture and Blindness
Rank 3: Immobile, Chaos, and Sleeping
Rank 4: Lower Resistance and Defense
Rank 5: Ignite and Poison
Rank 6: Imprison and Tag
Rules
Rule 1: Debuff of a higher rank (For example: Rank 1 is higher than Rank 2) will be removed first (if the cleanse used does not remove all the debuffs at once).
Ex.: If Paralysis and Acupuncture was applied, Paralysis will be removed first.
Rule 2: If you have debuffs of the same Rank, for example Immobile and Sleeping, the debuff that was applied on the ninja last will be removed first.
Ex.: If Paralysis is applied and then Slow, Slow will be removed first.
Think of it as layers of an onion or toppings on a pizza, you gotta remove the top layer before you can remove the bottom layer (easily anyways, probably can find some obscure way to bypass this xD).
Rule 3: Debuffs that are reapplied will not change the order of which it was applied first.
Ex.: If Poison was applied and then Ignite, and then Poison again. Ignite will still be removed first.
Rule 4: Chaos and Immobile cannot co-exist from Rank 3 cannot co-exist.
Ex.: if Immobile was applied and then Chaos, Immobile will be removed.
~Jib
Hopefully that helps. This is a great example of how the community can come together into better understanding things like debuffs =p Keep up the great work!
Credits to this guide.
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- Dresq On 2018-10-08 22:54:49
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I have an advanced question in regards to the ordering of debuffs applied.
Scenario is Jounin Minato, with 3-in-1 Mystery + Azure Fang Poison Tai.
Which debuff gets applied first... Poison, Tag or Paralysis?
Hi! Since Poison, Tag, and Paralysis are separate in Rank, the higher Rank will be removed first. So in this case, Paralysis will be removed, then poison, then Tag xD
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- Kuebiko On 2018-10-08 23:46:22
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gg i was going to check my list against yours y u go post first -3-
there's still some discrepancies between our lists i hope to check. *cough*slow-acu*cough* (this seems to be an error on my part tbh, but i'll repeat that data set like...later...in the distant future...once i'm done with the rest of the debuffs lol)
funny thing btw, despite your ranking list @jib, immobile and slow seem to be on the same tier. when i'm clearing 1 layer of debuffs, the last debuff applied (between slow and immobile) gets removed first. u can a'lso see this in yujin's list. again for both our lists, blindness was cleared before slow (in the case where blindness is applied after slow) even though you've ranked blindness to be a lower priority clear than slow.
add: immobile and paralysis are definitely on the same tier.
also a fun fact i noticed while testing: there are only 3 ninjas capable of casting prompt round 1 chaos. itachi susanoo, ino swimsuit, and aoneko XD
Oooh, would definitely have to check/test this theory myself. Thanks for pointing it out =] Will update if I find out anything.
~Jib
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- Dresq On 2018-10-09 00:30:58
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Right, I know. Was meaning more in that if an attack applies multiple debuffs at the 'same time', how would they be ordered. Jounin Minato is a bad example I guess, as his applied debuffs are not the same rank. So lets ask a different way.
Nina XYZ uses Mystery. It applies Paralysis and because it has a Skill Experiment/Breakthrough/Bond, it also applies Slowness.
Would it be applying Paralysis first, as it is 'natural' to the skill, or would the newly added Slowness apply first?
Another scenario is Ramen Naruto and his standard attack, with Poison Tai. If he procs his combo, which is applied first, Ignition or Poison?
Hi! After some testing, it seems that if Ignite was applied say by using Naruto [Nine Tails Chakra] and you had Azure Fang's Poison Tai, Poison Tai gets removed first. I believe it may be due to the fact that Poison Tai is a passive of Azure Fang and technically applied second when Naruto [Nine Tails Chakra] attacked, as Naruto [Nine Tails Chakra]'s Standard Attack causes Ignition.
However, in order to better answer you, I believe it would be better if you give us an actual scenario or example to test, rather than a hypothetical one.
Hope that helps!
~Jib
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