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On 2018-10-06 16:43:43Show this Author Only
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  • Digital Release On 2018-10-06 14:04:00
  • There's one video of 5/25/2017, it unfortunately doesn't show the food sacks and I searched quite a bit, there doesn't seem to be a video other than 1 that show cases the events for that period.

    That said, I never remember this being more than 10 coupons & I've been playing since I think around September-Oct last year? It's been 10 coupons for that period.

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I understand. I may have confused it with other event. Anyway, this should be the new price of the food sack starting this event cycle.

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On 2018-10-06 16:44:48Show this Author Only
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  • Exvius On 2018-10-06 16:25:59
  • If your question is the one in the picture then no, it will not damage the gear. It is safe to do that.

Yeah, that one. Thanks

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On 2018-10-06 17:26:37Show this Author Only
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  • Exvius On 2018-10-06 16:43:43
  • I understand. I may have confused it with other event. Anyway, this should be the new price of the food sack starting this event cycle.

Are you serious?

First you guys stated that we fixed sakuras foodsack price as it was always 20 coupons and now even if your lie has been proved wrong with proof, You still wont consider not reverting back to its original price since thats what you wanted to do right?

Anyways the price of coupons in sakuras sack isn't the issue the issue was the redeeming points of ninjas which suddenly decreased a bit since the killer bee sakuras gift event. Like for example minato before that it required like 27-30 points to redeem a frag but the last sakura gift event it was 22-23.

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On 2018-10-06 17:43:16Show this Author Only
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  • darkshawdows On 2018-10-06 17:26:37
  • Are you serious?

    First you guys stated that we fixed sakuras foodsack price as it was always 20 coupons and now even if your lie has been proved wrong with proof, You still wont consider not reverting back to its original price since thats what you wanted to do right?

    Anyways the price of coupons in sakuras sack isn't the issue the issue was the redeeming points of ninjas which suddenly decreased a bit since the killer bee sakuras gift event. Like for example minato before that it required like 27-30 points to redeem a frag but the last sakura gift event it was 22-23.

I'm sorry. I did not say that as part of the mod team but as a player. I do know that the October 22 Sakura's Gift event had a 10cp/sack pricing even before claiming the 20 but because I vaguely remember that I did a report once pointing out one of the prices, I still went with I said--but like I said, I may have mixed it with other events and unfortunately I am unable to retrieve the report now.


However, regardless of the price before, the current 20cp/sack is the updated price of the food sacks.

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On 2018-10-06 17:44:14Show this Author Only
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On 2018-10-06 22:43:24Show this Author Only
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  • Exvius On 2018-10-06 17:43:16
  • I'm sorry. I did not say that as part of the mod team but as a player. I do know that the October 22 Sakura's Gift event had a 10cp/sack pricing even before claiming the 20 but because I vaguely remember that I did a report once pointing out one of the prices, I still went with I said--but like I said, I may have mixed it with other events and unfortunately I am unable to retrieve the report now.


    However, regardless of the price before, the current 20cp/sack is the updated price of the food sacks.

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On 2018-10-06 23:52:22Show this Author Only
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I don't why it's really hard for you to comprehend what I said but the fact is, I did say I was wrong, *if* ever the 5/25 Sakura's Gift was at 10cp/sack. Fact is, whatever we say will always be negative for you, bortugas/waterman/firemans/or w/e you call yourself. Regardless, if it was at 10 or 20cp, this new price is the updated one.

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On 2018-10-07 00:48:44Show this Author Only
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this event from being one of the best price wise to just being bad




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On 2018-10-07 01:05:32Show this Author Only
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Honestly i woulda done the smart thing and just let it deal with the consequences, not change midway, cuz you managed to do 2 things in 1 event, piss off people who spent 18k ingots/coupons for madara 5 kage, and by changing it midway, you managed to piss off the other half of spenders which is mid/low tier spenders, probably you got at least 90% of the community enraged against you(the team) which to my knowledge all i see is people angry about it, and i need to give them reason, you basically slapped yourselves in the face with this, i would be surprised if people still have faith in this team at all, i dont blame the game, i blame the team.

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On 2018-10-07 01:16:16Show this Author Only
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  • Shadoblaze On 2018-10-06 04:55:53
  • 1) the price of food packs has always been 10cp, i've played this game since it launched day 1, i complained about this event since at 10 cp even with ranking rewards it wasnt worth spending on as a whale(290k power s2 Shadowblaze) originally, when the ranking rewards were changed it became worth spending on only if you could get first for the 1k points, not if you need to get 3k points to beat other whales.


    2) daiske said that 20cp was supposed to be the price for packs, he meant for this instance of the event. if you compare the prices of ninjas this time and previous times, the ninjas this time are at lower point requirements for their value. by reducing the point values it makes the event better for f2p since you get the same amount of free points but can buy more frags for those free points, it does make the event worse for people who planned to buy the packs for the normal items tho since their prices remained the same.

    So instead of the event being worth buying packs for adv refines while working toward first place, adv refines are worth more from the normal shop even accounting for the first place ranking rewards. It isn't a terrible thing since there are better events for getting stuff this week anyway, so long as you didn't just want that 5 kage summit madara.


    tldr: they make an event more f2p friendly and people still complain. LOL


i dont disagree with you, but im more upset they changed midway. and the fact they took off also sakura / sasuke pack.

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On 2018-10-07 02:12:50Show this Author Only
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They will see soon enough how bad this move of theirs proved to be, when their income will drop....
I bet they will try to rise it up by giving new features, but that's short term thinking...I am afraid that this game might come to an end, due to the bad management...Sry guys, it was nice knowing y'all

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On 2018-10-07 03:17:24Show this Author Only
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LOL, oasis staffs are just clueless and incompetent, whats wrong witu u all? LMAO

why there is no a wise person in ur team, even one?

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On 2018-10-07 03:53:43Show this Author Only
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give exvius a break T_T we all make mistakes so hu*'s not like he was the one who did it, it was the games system which failed to update the price from the beginning ~ so remove ur *ty anger off of him and learn to be patient until the compensation arrives




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On 2018-10-07 04:00:18Show this Author Only
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  • _Light_ On 2018-10-07 03:53:43
  • give exvius a break T_T we all make mistakes so hu*'s not like he was the one who did it, it was the games system which failed to update the price from the beginning ~ so remove ur *ty anger off of him and learn to be patient until the compensation arrives

You're not going to convince them to change their behaviour. They feel wronged and they think they deserve to be rude.

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On 2018-10-07 04:06:50Show this Author Only
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  • _Light_ On 2018-10-07 03:53:43
  • give exvius a break T_T we all make mistakes so hu*'s not like he was the one who did it, it was the games system which failed to update the price from the beginning ~ so remove ur *ty anger off of him and learn to be patient until the compensation arrives

I am not saying that I am not doing any mistakes. Hell, I even do them on a weekly basis, but the difference is that I own them, I apologize, I repair what I have broken, I do not blame anyone, and try to make it look like that's how it's supposed to be. I own my mistakes, pay the price and move on...But that's not happening here, they simply don't want to pay the price, and that's why this all hate is around, because no one wants to pay the price: - the mods don't want to pay the price; - the community feels like they did nothing wrong so why should they pay the price...This is actually what's all about:

At the end of this sh*t storm, who's gonna pay the price for those mistakes?

They are trying to make us pay the price, and we are trying to make them pay the price since they did messed up, not us.
They are trying a bank-like thinking approach. I don't know how many of you know this: but actually we pay the loans that the bank does not get back.

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On 2018-10-07 04:16:57Show this Author Only
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  • Exvius On 2018-10-06 23:52:22
  • I don't why it's really hard for you to comprehend what I said but the fact is, I did say I was wrong, *if* ever the 5/25 Sakura's Gift was at 10cp/sack. Fact is, whatever we say will always be negative for you, bortugas/waterman/firemans/or w/e you call yourself. Regardless, if it was at 10 or 20cp, this new price is the updated one.

I just checked and in 5/25 there was no Sakuras gift event it was Sakura convenant instead. I can provide screenshots as proof in PM if you need. Hope it helps.

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On 2018-10-07 04:56:02Show this Author Only
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  • NarutoHokageSam On 2018-10-07 04:06:50
  • I am not saying that I am not doing any mistakes. Hell, I even do them on a weekly basis, but the difference is that I own them, I apologize, I repair what I have broken, I do not blame anyone, and try to make it look like that's how it's supposed to be. I own my mistakes, pay the price and move on...But that's not happening here, they simply don't want to pay the price, and that's why this all hate is around, because no one wants to pay the price: - the mods don't want to pay the price; - the community feels like they did nothing wrong so why should they pay the price...This is actually what's all about:

    At the end of this sh*t storm, who's gonna pay the price for those mistakes?

    They are trying to make us pay the price, and we are trying to make them pay the price since they did messed up, not us.
    They are trying a bank-like thinking approach. I don't know how many of you know this: but actually we pay the loans that the bank does not get back.

Then how do you expect Oasis to make amends? A lot of people have different answers to that question and only a little amount of those sounds reasonable. It is expected that not all people are going to like the compensation. I already see the drama going to be dragged either further due to this reason. If that happens, do you still think the community still has no part in the drama? Everybody by now knows what happen and should start begin to move on.


Also don't say "we are trying to make them pay the price" as it sounds like you are endorsing people to be voice their concerns in a rude manner when Oasis already knows people are angry with this mess. No progress will be made from it besides allowing people to vent.

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On 2018-10-07 05:24:47Show this Author Only
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  • Danzō On 2018-10-07 04:56:02
  • Then how do you expect Oasis to make amends? A lot of people have different answers to that question and only a little amount of those sounds reasonable. It is expected that not all people are going to like the compensation. I already see the drama going to be dragged either further due to this reason. If that happens, do you still think the community still has no part in the drama? Everybody by now knows what happen and should start begin to move on.


    Also don't say "we are trying to make them pay the price" as it sounds like you are endorsing people to be voice their concerns in a rude manner when Oasis already knows people are angry with this mess. No progress will be made from it besides allowing people to vent.

yeah they know we are upset, but do they actually care, the answer is no, they just sweep this under the rug and move on, another week of events will follow and people will forget about this like always. and the funny thing is, people will keep recharging and spending like always.

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On 2018-10-07 06:12:42Show this Author Only
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  • Danzō On 2018-10-07 04:56:02
  • Then how do you expect Oasis to make amends? A lot of people have different answers to that question and only a little amount of those sounds reasonable. It is expected that not all people are going to like the compensation. I already see the drama going to be dragged either further due to this reason. If that happens, do you still think the community still has no part in the drama? Everybody by now knows what happen and should start begin to move on.


    Also don't say "we are trying to make them pay the price" as it sounds like you are endorsing people to be voice their concerns in a rude manner when Oasis already knows people are angry with this mess. No progress will be made from it besides allowing people to vent.

It's moreso how they have been handling the situation. They have gone from clamming it's a bug, to trying to gaslight us and now a forum moderator is using their moderator account to post statements then gone back and said it was personal opinion. We are told to not ask for anything unreasonable like coupons as compensation for an extreme oversight on their part which messed with game balance even if only a bit it still has undeniably. The correct response would have been an apology a specifc date picked an players given notice of that date, with 24 hours to claim items at the same price. Instead they have called us liars, tried to convince us the screenshots we have are either misdated or otherwise incorrect and told us to stop complaining. This is textbook example of what NOT to do when your company has a massive screw up, it's like their pr person gave them advice and they flying rajin teleported in the complete opposite * direction. The reason people won't be satisfied is because the only way to make a person who had enough coupons to buy kakazu when the price was the correct price but now doesn't because of the adjustment is to offer that person the chance to buy it at the same price and it's pretty evident that's not going to be what happens, so ya people are going to be pissed when it's going to be 20 foodsacks, a smattering of dangos and 10 adv refine runes along with a we will work harder to not have this happen in the future.

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On 2018-10-07 08:40:59Show this Author Only
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  • hooya92 On 2018-10-07 06:12:42
  • It's moreso how they have been handling the situation. They have gone from clamming it's a bug, to trying to gaslight us and now a forum moderator is using their moderator account to post statements then gone back and said it was personal opinion. We are told to not ask for anything unreasonable like coupons as compensation for an extreme oversight on their part which messed with game balance even if only a bit it still has undeniably. The correct response would have been an apology a specifc date picked an players given notice of that date, with 24 hours to claim items at the same price. Instead they have called us liars, tried to convince us the screenshots we have are either misdated or otherwise incorrect and told us to stop complaining. This is textbook example of what NOT to do when your company has a massive screw up, it's like their pr person gave them advice and they flying rajin teleported in the complete opposite * direction. The reason people won't be satisfied is because the only way to make a person who had enough coupons to buy kakazu when the price was the correct price but now doesn't because of the adjustment is to offer that person the chance to buy it at the same price and it's pretty evident that's not going to be what happens, so ya people are going to be pissed when it's going to be 20 foodsacks, a smattering of dangos and 10 adv refine runes along with a we will work harder to not have this happen in the future.

Based on what I saw, there were more posts about the discrepancy between servers, who got what, and who missed out compared to how Oasis handled the situation. It also doesn't help that the sakura mission was still not fixed from last month. In my opinion, less people would be complaining if they benefited from what happen and then could care less of what happened to the game in-terms of how balanced the game would be.


Also, you might view the price is correct when you don't consider the historical average of the price. If a price drops drastically, you can either think if this is a bug or an intentional move that would be either temporary or permanent. A lot of people quickly assumed it was intentional because of what Tobei said. Honestly, in my opinion, he should not have said anything if he was not 100% sure but of course people want an immediately response. Once they took action on the prices, Oasis was in a terrible position from that point on. They could either left it the way it is and risk ruining game-balance or reversed to get to close to the average price and have players think that was an intentional move to claim it as a "bug", and they chose the later.





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