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To the community: stop being self-centered

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On 2018-10-04 23:18:26Show All Posts
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Someone messed up. I get it. And I know there are a ton of people that are going to complain no matter what and most of their complaints are going to be centered around some idea where they try to benefit themselves even more.... but I don't think THIS is the best time to let Oasis slide by somehow blaming the community for their mistakes.

Players being selfish/self-centered isn't what got us to this particular point - even if there is an argument that most of their arguments aren't helping now. And I just don't, personally, think the stance that you're trying to take is actually being constructive either.

We all play the game differently and that actually puts Oasis in a tough spot here. There's not going to be any good solution that makes everyone happy.
Some people would be happy if they got anything for free as some sorta compensation and will feel like they profited from it.
Others will feel robbed because their early "investment" in something somehow feels lessened if someone else got it cheaper.

My stance is that I tend to play games fairly competitively and in a game like this you try to "game the game."
Something like 5k Madara being a good deal doesn't mean anything to me because that happens in a game like this. If you get something early then you often overpay - you should accept that. Sometimes there are good deals and the way you get ahead is by maximising your resources. And it's always a bit of a gamble using a lot of resources on something because there may be a real cost in the next event offering better value had you waited. Whatever. We all play on that same playing field, ya know? It's equal. Now... if some players were able to pay less in these events for 5k Madara than others were and the playing field wasn't even... well, that WOULD be messed up.

Again, if SOME people were given an opportunity to capitalize on an event where others weren't then that is kinda messed up. Again, I'm fairly competitive. If I'm running a race then I don't want to see someone else get a 10 yard head start on accident and the "fix" for me wouldn't be to decide that everyone can now have a 10 yard head start as 'compensation' if that same opponent now ends up with a 20 yard head start - it just doesn't work and ends up ruining the race.

Also, let's be clear that this game is virtual product. It's not like Oasis produces luxury cars that were mispriced and will lose a bunch of money. Does it really even matter if everyone had a bunch of Sailor Sakura frags or whatever?

My West Coast server never got access and I'm not that worried about it, personally, since it didn't upset any balance with the people I'm mostly competing with. But if I was on a server where some got the opportunity to take advantage of the deal and I did not then I'd be very irate right now. Again, I'd feel like some of my opponents were given a head start and the race I was trying to run against them was ruined by it. And I don't think any of that frustration would stem from a self-centered worldview.




This post was last edited by Malachorn on 2018-10-04 23:38:21.
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On 2018-10-04 23:36:04Show All Posts
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  • Azzakye On 2018-10-04 23:28:05
  • 100% agree with you Malachorn, Oasis biggest mistake was actually doing something. Now since they have changed things it leaves way too many dissatisfied. Anyone asking for compensation should really stop cause its not going to help you and those that didnt take advantage but the ones who already have.

I'm actually curious what the logic was behind their decision.

Again, it's virtual product so it's not like "giving away" most things even actually costs them money. I actually think the event woulda encouraged slightly more spending and made them more money... even if it was a mistake.

Unless they thought these deals woulda helped create an unhealthy game environment somehow and hurt the game in that way (which I REALLY don't think was the motive behind their actions).... then I'm just failing to see how this solution could have even been seen as a good idea.

Mistakes happen and the programmer that might be fired would actually have a lot less questions from me than the executive-type that decided it was a good idea to 'fix' the mistake like this, tbh.

Granted, I hope I've put a lot less thought into this than they have and may just not know any better.




This post was last edited by Malachorn on 2018-10-04 23:37:14.
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On 2018-10-05 00:03:34Show All Posts
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  • Azzakye On 2018-10-04 23:55:45
  • My guess its just a bad reaction from the community that caused this. Instead of praise for the rain we get people complaining that they have water when they already had a lake.


    Overall I don't think this is not a programmers fault either since that would contradict statements oasis authorities have made.


    Honestly speaking about game environment even if they gave everyone every ninja for free it wouldn't create an unhealthy environment. Only by introducing something new will it cause effects. All of these ninjas already exist so lowering the level of entry is not going to change anything it just speeds up meta.

I most certainly don't think their reaction was because of it affecting the meta - but I do think that would be a viable reason for their course of action, if that was their primary concern.

Now... I REALLY don't think this has much to do with the issue at hand and is a bit of a tangent... but in theory, I would argue that the meta COULD be affected greatly by a ninja such as Sailor Sakura being overused because it was so F2P-friendly or whatever.

Some teams are better against other types of teams and a ninja like Sailor (and I will always call her Sailor, for what it's worth) would encourage very specific teams. If the meta was driven by those teams then you'd potentially see a reaction to it in the other teams people were trying to use and those effects would eventually work their way up to even the very top whales and the teams they tend to use. And most of that is due to the fact that a lot of ninjas aren't things everyone has access to.




This post was last edited by Malachorn on 2018-10-05 00:04:43.
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