Hello guys and sorry that i left this thread - its new year time, hope you can understand it) But i came back on 2.0 and what i can tell you about new earth's talents?

CRIMSON FIST IS DEAD.
Its not about new talents, they're not so bad. But 2.0 update changed some old talents and it killed CF as cl@ass. Well, later after some updates and ninjas we'll come back, but for now this Crimson Fist is unplayable. Just statistic: on S1 more than 20 top players changd class cuz it's too weak. Why? Just 2 reasons. Earth Style Petrifying Jutsu and Pose of Duel.

Earth Style Petrifying Jutsu - standart attack. Before update it was 1 of the key Fist's abilities. 50% resists as shield each turn! With 5000 res you get 2500 on 2 your ninjas! Now its 20%. 998 res with 5k res. No comments.

Pose of duel - now work just on ninjas with full hp instead of ninjas with >50%hp. Maybe with old Petrifying Jutsu it could work, but now... From 1 of the best talents to 1 of the worst.

Oh, and dont forget that other classes now can remove shields. Yey!

So now CF is bad tank. If we look on another talents we can think, that earth main - not just pure tank, he can deal dmg too... But it is a illusion.

Yes, now Super Lightened Boulder Jutsu hasnt battlfield cd. Yes, new standart attack deal good dmg. Yes, Wood Style Universe causes Immobile. But at the same time:

1) 3rd raw of talents totally useless for this "Tons of DMG from additional turn" formation. We dont need def - so we c*e just Guidance that dont increase attack, ninj or smth useful. It increases combo rate. Yes, its good stat, but after 1 chase combo you dont need it so much. It is good if you have some additional statuses with it. As example - Kisame - triple combo+accupunture. How many ninjas have additional "sweets" with combo? Tail Naruto, Deidara, Kisame, Cee, Mei, Minato, Darui... yes, thats all. So just 8 ninjas can have profit from this talent. And just 3-4 form them you c*e in your team. Its... sad, cuz previous talent(1 additional attack for random ninja) was better.

2) For wood style and immobile(ofc on clone or lightning main with root of warrior) you need shield. And since its ~1000 per turn you just cant replace it and cause immobile - cuz opponet will easy break your small shield.

3) Even if you still want to use this strategy - we havnt so many ninjas which can win battle on turn 1 just with auto attacks. I can imagine just 1 lineup - WB Asuma-Iruka-Sage Naruto. Need to test it, but dont think that it works as good as simple new f2p Lighning-water-wind lineups.

So after 2.0 Earth is bad tank, bad support and bad dmg dealer. Sorry guys, i really love this cl@ss, but now i dont know any reason to continue play as Crimson Fist.

P.S. Oh, i know 1 reason. On nine-tails CF now will deal most dmg. Yey!


This post was last edited by Narutlih at 2017-1-6 00:28

my feelings are the same now!
my ass burning so hard right now
it's no fun time come
let's all die

Earth Style Petrifying Jutsu was 20% resistance before update and is 20% resistance after.

The only thing that changed was Steel Body.
Pre Update: Steel Body gave 100% resistance.
Post Update: Steel Body gives 100% defense

But yes, the main still stands; Earth is by far the weakest main in the game currently.

nop, I just tested on brazilian server here (we don't have 2.0 yet), the shield standard attack was 40% of earth main's resistance and the shield created by the mistery skill is 100% of earth main's resistance, that plus steel body giving bonus to defense instead of resistence is a HUGE nerf

Not to mention the pose of duel only working on 100% life ninja...
So yeah, gg every other cl@ss you won, nobody is going to use Earth now.

I'm still going to try and stay earth...even they specialize in nothing now.

Water main is so broken currently, Reverse Seal literally heals them back to 100% when you combo them. ._.

Narutlih what lineup and talent for NINE TAILS ?:lol

Iruka - yamato - asuma wb ?
This post was last edited by Nikilvss at 2017-1-6 08:26

Yeah its 90% dead. Its my lovely class and i cant live without it even meaning losing against same or even LESS powered players :(

Yeah 2.0 brought a lot of good things but CF got shafted hard. Pose of Duel broke my team's damage output. Petrifying jutsu is joke. It can't even stop standard attacks in pvp (much worse in pve). Just maxed awakened/cultivated yamato before patch and now I can't even switch mains cos I don't have enough runes/awakenings for a new lineup. *Sigh* Gonna bear with it for a couple of days to a week.
I do agree on 9 tails. Its the only good thing going for CF.

Sad. With so many new ways to eat buffs/shields CF really needed some love this update. Seems they are hell-bent on driving him into the ground and making him the punching bag for all other mains.

i didn't wan to leave earth - i love this charater but it's not playable now......

Just like with Tobi, this is probably effect of infinite whining. Jashin only knows WHY they were whining in the first place as Earth were probably easiest char to defeat if somebody used a bit of brain, but perhaps that's why, as brain is harder to find than even rarest ninjas in this game...

ye, maybe Kage gaara instead of Yamato will be better. But ideal formation Iruka- WB Asuma - 1st Kage. Poor 9-tail.

Maybe later i'll ome back to Earth, but just cuz i prefer to be 4th in Earth ranking rather than 40+ in lightning. Feel the difference.

shizune good or not for main earth?can it make good combo?

it was merh fav class :'(

sad to see our dear crimson fist treated that way.

Anyway thanks for all the good teams you have posted on this topic Narutlih.

Is it not salvageable in the current state?

Making a more aggressive team won't help? Could either make it earth centric or try to * enemy team out of the water in round 2 with pose of duel blanketed by the big team shield from the 3rd row maybe?

Dissappointing if that's not going to cut it.

There is no way to salvage it current. I've tried out numerous different teams and can't come up with anything.

Earth main has to be in the front position because his skills are super slow, yet with the nerf to shield and steel body - earth main is basically almost dead after turn 1.

Steel Body needs to give like 50% defense and resist instead of 100% of either. Almost all skills in the game are hybrid - including standards - and it just tears through earth main now that he has no resistance.

Which is ironic, because earth main is already plagued with having some of the lowest growth stats - his main stat is resistance yet it is his lowest growth.

From some ppl in my group who have played cn version and rought estimation..we would see earth buff around in 4 or 5 month. So bye bye every earth class player i guess.

hey its not so bad guys. shields * .tryue . try to get akatsushi. his shields compensate. then go for tankish dps. ao and torune is a nice team plus akatsushi
:lol