Fire main that runs any mystery but the shield becomes far stronger.... The usually ignored ignition mystery actually does a lot of damage because of the ignition (and no ooldown while your clone is on the field). The immobile + inprision mystery can make a water or wind main skip a round, and take 40% of their hp in recoil when they use any mystery next round. The giant fireball mystery is pretty much a hard counter to any clone based team. If you do run the shield, then yes, he is bad in most teams in zenith.

Imho you are largely undervalue earth main. Earth main with 2 females and 1 male works perfectly fine due to the passive that gives immunity he got with 5.0 (you consider op breeze dancer for flower guard and earth main with guidance that do the same thing but with males no?) and who said you have to use boulder jutsu? Chakra wall and the knockdown mysteries in zenith work way better in many situations (with the random teams you can make and find).

You said yourself that most of his good things are shield based. If is so, then, just use the mysteries that give you shields when you want and ninjas, if available, that selfshield or that grant shields (like utakata, gakido, kurenai, omoi, toroi etc...).

A team, for example, like earth main + utakata, if you are able to make proc the 20 chase, in zenith, due to how the enemy teams can be made, may be very op.

P.S. Monkey king works also with earth main and earth main clone casts immobile...

The problem with shields is that although it’s his best thing, it’s scaling is really bad in arena. Breeze dancer flower guard is a perk, but the thing that puts her above all is her abundance of clones. In addition, immunity for wind main is much more important than that for earth main as her mystery and standard is much better. As a main he still has his uses, but not on the same level as fire water or wind which is why he is at the bottom.

+ 1 on clones, annoying af, but Earth main I think is slightly better than Fire Main (I personally use fire main)

You don't even need to take clone passive with WM, you can go for chakra passive and with extra standard chase +monkey king mystery you'll have enough clones always.

It's weird that Water is the most popular yet I haven't faced her in my 8 fights (got 1x earth, 3x lightning, 2x fire, 2x wind), went 7-1 with wind main. Kinda screwed myself when I didn't see skillbroken Lee in ninja selection and picked skillbroken Kakuzu blindly, without knowing his skillbreak (but fully skillbroken = good, right? :D not necessarily in this case).

Umm you are giving FAR too little credit to lightning main. RoW is not garbage because you don't need kushi whatsoever to have a ridiculous lightning team. All you need is ninja with swords, thats it. Kinkaku/Ginkaku, Darui, etc etc. Plus you aren't accounting for Anbu Special Tactics either, that leech is ridiculous in there. When you pair this all with cc chases and accupuncture myst.

1.Wind Main

2.Lightning Main

3./4. Water Main/Fire Main (interchangable imo)

HUGE GAP

5.Earth Main

If you are wind/lightning fighting earth your chances of winning automatically increase to 2 or 3:1

Definitely not, Earth is the worst by a considerable margin. All you have to do is ignite everything and bring koh and you will wear them down inside 3 rounds. Pair that with CC chase and its not hard to win at all. You are however right about the clones, they are WAY too op here.

For me

1. Wind,

2. Fire

3. Water

4. Lighting

5. Earth

I didn't use Dance nor Rasengan for wind. I used Blind instead. You basically can blind and damage 2 units every round as long as clone in the field. Many players underestimated how annoying blind is.

Sometimes I used Sanddust instead, see what first round which main am I up against.

As for fire main, I chose Dragon Flame instead. In Zenith you had very limited choice of ninjas, picked many supports and buffs as much as you could and Dragon Flame every rounds.

To play Earth.

You need to play him like 1.0 style to make it work.

IN zenith i would say

1 . LM
2 . Wind /

3 . earth
4 . water

5 . fire .

these wut i see so far , if u see the ninja in zenith mostly suit for those main .

This was made on the 20 point day where the ninja selection is very poor. However, on the days with more points and better ninjas, I think that lm can definitely compete with wind and water.