dodge ninjas are generally useless against shark bomb teams because water main will usually run pakkun to trigger all the dodges before she launches the shark bomb.

also OP has clearly stated the team composition in their first post.

pos1 water main

pos2 madara 5kage or han

po3/4 debuff clearers. (usually kurenai, gakido, sailor sakura)

there's really no need to go into a whole paragraph discussing what the "cancer meta" in question is. it's already there lol.

This team is hard to counter to be honest. I can't think a way to beat this team if you have lower 1st pos ini. Once swimsuit sakura comes out, it will be more cancerous.

Maybe an immune team that have 10 combo chase of ignite and poison, or ninjas that can debuff once they are attacked EG: SB Hanzo and Roshi? Expect your main char to be useless because they will ending up being chaos'ed except for fire main with reflect.

Maybe the team below will work once Hanzo skill break was released on the game. I don't know. I just did my best.

I have fought someone who uses that team and has a higher init pos1 than me in space time named "Zues". My build is not absolute but it is the one so far that I know that can give you a chance to win against that cancer team. I'v tried all stuffs and the only ninjas that work is a dodge ninja and a ninja that gives chakra. This is team relies on RNG.

talents

Use substitution talent to dodge the first water bomb, if you do wait out all heals and debuff removers then you launch your own bomb.

Some may say that even if we use dodge ninjas we will still get chakra drained since the opponent uses pakkun. That is true on round 2, you get drained you get chaosed but if your main dodged the bomb you can still get chakra because you have Inoichi Yamanaka's 2nd passive. On round 3 your opponent has no pakkun mystery anymore so you basically dodge her mystery. Now start scaling your Jounin minato, clutch your controls and wish the RNG god is on your side.

P1 Shark Bomb never runs poison. It has to run experimental Ninjutsu with Neurotoxin.

i always use this line up in matsuri, dont have a problem with dogde ninjas but not with immune ninjas team.

"Any way to counter those shark bomb, 5KM/Han, 2x healer teams in normal PvP, bonds or in GNW? Assuming I have lower pos 1 initiative.

Not posting screenshots of my ninja, since what I'm looking for is team ideas for future references and for other players if anyone else is interested."

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thats his original post. so there are no mention of team line up. to be accurate in "normal PVP, bonds and gnw" which mean u can tell ur enemy line up before its match. or maybe if only u have spy on gnw but other than that, oretty much we all blinded. and also there are no mention of pos 1 water main as its clearly stated above. and also cancer by poison or cancer by chaos are not the same thing hence chaos line up also sometime reffered to cancer team. also pakun dogs summon only trigger on Round 2 which mean if she run experimenal on R1 more likely your dodger still viable.and more likely if ur crit is more than she does chaos from crit will not accured.

Tips, have either ninjas that are immune and/or those that can generate chakra.

Also, people cant use pakkun twice. So dodge ninjas are still just as useful considering most chakra bomb teams have the bomb as the only source of damage.

Also, Killer Bee Mystery has it so that the target's mystery is not interruptable, so if you put it on a ninja that is immune, its mystery will always go off.

The fact about Killer Bee is false. It only protects from Interrupts. Not from CC like Chaos, Immobile, and Sleep. So it'll still interrupt if your ninja gets chaos'd.

Susano Sasuke - immune to pure ninjutsu, therefore Shark is 0 Dmg.

Play him with Fire main is probably better than Lighting main, with sleep standard.

Support with Cee or Inochi like the person above.

1. Shark 0 dmg

2. She can't combo you.

3. If you have good control, you should be able to turn.

Cee is pretty good with Sasuke, he will buff def and res to himself. Take less dmg from shark.

what?? I'm pretty sure it carries on depending on whether or not you used before/after the opponent's unit's standard attack, not on control. Control just determines whether a control fails or not.

I never knew poison han teams ran shark bomb now. . Poison 5k Madara also seems legit lol

Just to clear things up. He said if "the ninja is immune."

Immune, but if you cast, meanwhile shark is incoming AND chaos lands on you. Your mystery will still cancel, but he won't be CC.

He only protects interruption not hard CC.

Interruption like Minato, Iruka, Guys' kick etc.

Acupuncture, Chaos, Sleep, Immobile will stop mysteries even if you have Interruption protected.

Sorry for not being clear enough. The double healers are usually Sailor Sakura and Kurenai, or sometimes Tsunade. The water main always runs experimental for chaos every round.

Thank you everyone for the ideas! Much appreciated

This is incorrect. You can interrupt an immune ninja in this way, but not an immune ninja with Bee's protection from interruption. You would need to use Kushina or Fire Main's third mystery to surpress immunity in order to interrupt.

He said put it on a ninja that is immune. If you are immune to debuffs and you become immune to interruption you can't be interrupted on any way unless they remove before bee mystery buff.

@OP: your counter is normal kushina 3 stars + something that gives chakra with clones death. The 3 other targets of shark bomb are random so clones are a serious issues for those teams. An example of a good team that counters it is: normal kushina, kisame samehada, wind main and an immune damage dealer for move 1 like kurama naruto.

Shark is 0 damage on sasuke only that, anyways, get chaosed and poisoned (by koh).

The most deadly shark bomb teams rely on high combos not on direct combos.

An op team with water main right now is: kisame samehada, guren/angel konan, kurenai with koh and water style water trumphet (and doesn't even use madara or han).

LMAO please read thoroughly. Where is the "incorrect" bit? We were talking about stop the mysteries.

Bee + Ninja = Interruption protection

Hard cc STILL STOPS mystery. Shark chaos stops mysteries even ninja is immune.

No one talked about suppress immunity. kbyelmaooutofhere.

if the ninja is immune and has been buffed by bee's interruption immunity he wont get interrupted.