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On 2018-08-04 22:34:41Show All Posts
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Yes you right that you will save more adv refines when you hoard untill you get at least 1300 adv refines for a lvl10, but for you to farm those refines you need to constantly update your power every event to maintain your position in swb or else you wont be able to compete on that mode which is the adv refine mining event. Every Swb I always manage to get 18 adv refines=684 coupons a total of 54 adv refines per week from SWB which is equivalent to 2052 coupons shop price. You will be getting 35 adv refines,20 cave keys, 1 breakthrough pill every 500 adv refines used on rebates, while you are getting these freebies you also get to maintain your place on the sage world which gives you the opportunity to farm refines. While hoarding to rush a lvl7 refine to lvl10 is also a great strategy to save resources but during those long dry stagnant months while your power is not moving up your competitors on Swb are getting ahead of you, maybe you wont be able to hold a rank 1, or even stay on top 3 every swb and on top of that you will be missing out the freebies from the rebates. This is just my strategy and I choose this because it works best on me and I believe the time will come where breakthrough pills will make you win the initiative war because people will eventually max thier refine lvls and the only one who had more breakthrough pills will be the fastest.

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On 2018-08-05 22:29:08Show All Posts
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  • Shadoblaze On 2018-08-05 00:17:53
  • 54 adv refines per week means 9 weeks of saving to get the 500 for the rebate, and thats only getting you 1 lvl of refines, so between 200 to 800 power, and you will likely need to wait 3 rebates to get them all anyway, 9x3=27 weeks your way, my way you get 54 a week save 1300 which takes 24 weeks and you jump up about 1400 power, so you save 3 weeks of farming per piece of gear, which means your 9th piece of lvl 10 gear would be farmed instead of your 8th if you use my way vs yours.

    27 weeks is half a year, even using a rebate every other month its not a huge boost in power and the loss in the long run means someone else who save the smart way will eventualy beat you out of power, because they are gaining it faster since they spend less resources. those breakthrough pills only give 15 power max, any "extra" refines you get from rebates is lost because wish credits are given in larger amounts, 200 wish credits for lvl 9 to 10 that 1 level invalidates your entire 3 rebates, hell its 100 for lvl 8 to 9 and another 50 for 7 to 8 so 10x more wish credits than a rebate gives in refines


    in addition it's not like you cant spend adv refines at all my way, just do 10/50 per month(10 is best value because of keys) to claim the rebate rewards without leveling(that will help you farm the 1300 faster). if 200 power will make or break your ability to win, then imagine what 1400 power will do for you later. the last refine level is the one that really matters, it gives 230 extra of each stat so it by itself is almost as good as the first 7 levels(250 total for lvl 7, 230 just for going from 9 to 10).


    if your working on adv refines your past the point in which you can claim you have to have that 200 power asap or you lose, there are so many power features now that refines are not even in the top 3 anymore.

You assummed you can farm a 54 adv refines perfectly every week without updating your power and Initiative? to get that 54 adv refines you have to be rank 1st every time you play sage you know that right? Assuming you have all your refines to lvl6 and you decided to not upgrade until you get enough adv refines for a lvl10, while your opponents on sage decided to level thiers to lvl8 or even lvl9 for the mean time to get ahead, during those months lets say 6 months since you are weaker and slower than them you always gets cucked on SWB and they end up on top ranking while you only manage to stay on the bottom list, lets say you get 5 refine runes every sage world due to your lower power and speed and the guy who got his to lvl8 or lvl9 always gets 18 refines every sage world.

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On 2018-08-05 22:36:09Show All Posts
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  • Shadoblaze On 2018-08-05 00:17:53
  • 54 adv refines per week means 9 weeks of saving to get the 500 for the rebate, and thats only getting you 1 lvl of refines, so between 200 to 800 power, and you will likely need to wait 3 rebates to get them all anyway, 9x3=27 weeks your way, my way you get 54 a week save 1300 which takes 24 weeks and you jump up about 1400 power, so you save 3 weeks of farming per piece of gear, which means your 9th piece of lvl 10 gear would be farmed instead of your 8th if you use my way vs yours.

    27 weeks is half a year, even using a rebate every other month its not a huge boost in power and the loss in the long run means someone else who save the smart way will eventualy beat you out of power, because they are gaining it faster since they spend less resources. those breakthrough pills only give 15 power max, any "extra" refines you get from rebates is lost because wish credits are given in larger amounts, 200 wish credits for lvl 9 to 10 that 1 level invalidates your entire 3 rebates, hell its 100 for lvl 8 to 9 and another 50 for 7 to 8 so 10x more wish credits than a rebate gives in refines


    in addition it's not like you cant spend adv refines at all my way, just do 10/50 per month(10 is best value because of keys) to claim the rebate rewards without leveling(that will help you farm the 1300 faster). if 200 power will make or break your ability to win, then imagine what 1400 power will do for you later. the last refine level is the one that really matters, it gives 230 extra of each stat so it by itself is almost as good as the first 7 levels(250 total for lvl 7, 230 just for going from 9 to 10).


    if your working on adv refines your past the point in which you can claim you have to have that 200 power asap or you lose, there are so many power features now that refines are not even in the top 3 anymore.

About your comment criticizing the breakthrough pills lets say we all have the same lvl of refines, all lvl 10, we maxed every power we could get in every source but there is one difference, I have breakthrough pills and you have none. When it comes to initiative battle I'm always faster than you and you cant do anything about it unless you have the same number of pills as I am.

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On 2018-08-06 06:36:36Show All Posts
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  • Broken Screen On 2018-08-06 06:27:26
  • ^ Thank you.

    You have explained way better than I wanted to.

    I guess everyone has their own ways.

I mean Shadowblaze is not wrong, hoarding a thousand adv refines for a 7-10 is a very smart investment to save resources I've considered doing it aswell but it will be in the future.

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