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On 2018-07-31 00:59:09Show All PostsDescending Order
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I wanted to make this thread because I wanted to know which Super rare is better and why, since I am very close to my own. I know each ninja has its own place in teams and all of them work best in a specific form of formations, but overall which one is “better”. When the treasure came out everyone regarded Madara is the “FML” pull, he was considered second to Kurama but still super rare material. But now that many people have already gotten their supers, a lot of people regard Kurama as useless. To see which one was better I did my research by asking players who already had their super about what they thought worked and what didn’t. This is what I complied. Disclaimer: A few of these might not apply to you and are mainly from a F2P perspective.

Good Qualities:

Kurama Naruto:

- High combo mystery, let’s 30 hit combo chases go off much faster

- Cooldown reduction

- Ignition and Immobile with chase

- Good synergy with Kisame and Edo Tobirama

- Immunity

- Dodge

- Annoying to fight against

Uchiha Madara:

- Chakra battery, allows multiple mysteries to go off in the same round.

- Heavy ignition

- Crit chance with chase

- Super Armor

- Buff

- High Damage

- Good synergy with Konoha ninjas

- Good offensive support

- Hits more targets with standards and mystery

- Taijutsu immune, counters Kushimaru lineups


Bad Qualities

Kurama:

- Restricted Shinobi forces passive

- Mainly Pos 1 damage dealer

- Lack of creativity, restricted team building

- Expensive Support ninjas ie Kisame, Edo Tobirama

- Slow if you don’t have really high power over your opponent, not best for SWB

- Dies relatively fast against Kushina if dodge is baited

Madara:

- Lack of immunity

- Lack of debuff infliction other than ignition

- Many ways to remove super armor in the future, Ay skill breaks, Edo Yagura etc

- Mainly a support


I think both Super rares are amazing ninjas and I would love to get any of them, but as a f2p player I would like to get Madara considering I don’t have the ninjas to make Kurama work other than the generic Roshi, Bee and EM Team. I talked to a Chinese YouTube and he told me that while both supers have faded in the meta, Madara is used considerably more often than Kurama. I think it personally boils down to preference and play style in the end.




This post was last edited by Suino on 2018-07-31 00:59:09.
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On 2018-07-31 06:12:06Show All Posts
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2018-07-31 04:53:15
  • I just wanted to comment on Madara's bad qualities.

    Lack of Immunity isn't 100% correct, he is immune to chase attacks that isn't combo based. He is also immune to pure tai damage.

    You also have 3 other ninjas you c*e to offset any debuffs. For example, Earth Main, Water Main, Any Healer, Gakido, Hanzo (Just to name some) and as well as Fire Main who c*so buff Madara with Fire Enhancement and make him immune to debuffs for a round.

    As for lack of debuff infliction, What more do you think he'd do? Inflict paralysis? Or Poison? Or Immobile?

    I'm sorry but this Madara is Konoha Founder, not an edo variant so it would make sense his only debuff he can give is ignite which is really good to stop healing.




I meant Immunity to debuffs. Your points are correct but Kurama Naruto can immobile people with his chase, which is one of his good points. I already did mention Madara being immune to tai and chases in his good qualities. These were just common complaints I had compiled from my server, I myself am in no position to comment on any of these supers since I don’t own any.


Edit: Also the lack of debuff immunity is 100% correct since Kurama is completely immune without support from other ninjas while Madara is dependent on Fire mains mystery which can grant him one for a round.




This post was last edited by Suino on 2018-07-31 06:14:45.
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On 2018-07-31 12:39:50Show All Posts
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True we can’t pick our super rare, which is quite unfortunate. Also the meta is really diverse and constantly changes, while Kushimaru is a popular ninja in the current meta, he will eventually fall out. There’s also Angel Konon, Shisui, Edo Hiruzen etc. Chinese servers are a rough sketch of how our game will end up in the future, therefore it’s allows you to get ready for an upcoming change or ninja. , Also Taiwan servers look awful...what’s the point of treasures if you can just buy a ninja.





This post was last edited by Suino on 2018-07-31 12:42:17.
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On 2018-07-31 12:43:21Show All Posts
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Question: If a mystery, standard or chase is Nin/tai so does it mean Madara will suffer only half the damage considering he is immune to Taijutsu?

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On 2018-08-01 21:58:01Show All Posts
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What about a 120% buffed Kurama Naruto? Is his damage still low or do the buffs compensate for that? A guy with Kurama was running him with Shisui with poison tai in SWB yesterday...pretty long drawn battle (5 rounds) but even with 40% buff, Kurama couldn’t kill my 15% health main with his mystery, Shisui had to do that xD

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