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On 2018-07-18 19:52:53Show this Author Only
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  • Kaz S590 On 2018-07-18 18:27:28
  • edo hiruzen already destroyed any balance that this game had... specially in bonds

If by big gap power I agree (40k BP and higher), if same BP or 20k differ. Meh not. It just remove the shield only.

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On 2018-07-18 21:12:29Show this Author Only
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  • Kuro하돌 On 2018-07-18 19:52:53
  • If by big gap power I agree (40k BP and higher), if same BP or 20k differ. Meh not. It just remove the shield only.

i met a guy with 136k power with crazy ini and i'm 145k, his partner had edo sasori, hashirama if i recall and some other buffers... 1 skill of edo hiruzen from that 136k guy killed my partner with 112k and all my back row was left almost dead... I was using crimson fist with the +40% resis +20% def buff...

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On 2018-07-18 21:15:03Show this Author Only
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  • Kaz S590 On 2018-07-18 21:12:29
  • i met a guy with 136k power with crazy ini and i'm 145k, his partner had edo sasori, hashirama if i recall and some other buffers... 1 skill of edo hiruzen from that 136k guy killed my partner with 112k and all my back row was left almost dead... I was using crimson fist with the +40% resis +20% def buff...

I have both, Edo Hiruzen and Angel, as position 1, round 1.

Angel still did more damage than Hiruzen could with the same amount of buffs.

Since that day, i made him as my support.

Not saying that's Edo Hiruzen not strong. He just didn't impress me like Angel did.

A bit disappointed TBH.




This post was last edited by Broken Screen on 2018-07-18 21:15:49.
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On 2018-07-18 21:34:31Show this Author Only
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  • Broken Screen On 2018-07-18 21:15:03
  • I have both, Edo Hiruzen and Angel, as position 1, round 1.

    Angel still did more damage than Hiruzen could with the same amount of buffs.

    Since that day, i made him as my support.

    Not saying that's Edo Hiruzen not strong. He just didn't impress me like Angel did.

    A bit disappointed TBH.

angel didn't impress me at all, my dmg with her always seems very low and she's max mooded and all on ninjutsu... Maybe it's because of my critical rate idk... still i don't think 9.4k critical is bad but i barely do any criticals with her

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On 2018-07-18 22:26:33Show this Author Only
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  • Kaz S590 On 2018-07-18 21:12:29
  • i met a guy with 136k power with crazy ini and i'm 145k, his partner had edo sasori, hashirama if i recall and some other buffers... 1 skill of edo hiruzen from that 136k guy killed my partner with 112k and all my back row was left almost dead... I was using crimson fist with the +40% resis +20% def buff...

It's funny since I meet someone had 180k and I'm like 135k still survive it. And died on next round.

I just remember yesterday I fought someone around 210k or something used hiruzen can't 1 shot me and my friend.But it just kill1 Of my ninja.





This post was last edited by Kuro하돌 on 2018-07-18 22:33:57.
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On 2018-07-19 01:02:43Show this Author Only
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  • GenjiGenjuro On 2018-07-18 15:18:32
  • Because your power build is balanced, you didnt put all your power on the carry ninja that does that damage, if your build is balanced then better go cancer teams then

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On 2018-07-19 02:36:18Show this Author Only
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  • Zathroth On 2018-07-17 00:20:47
  • You need to understand whether things are rushed or not, the gap between players will stay. Quick example, both players started playing at the same time: our fellow ftp does everything everyday, plunders, convoys. He manages to get 4k cp during a month. Our friendly ptw does the same thing, but also recharged for monthly card, has jonin medal and buys naruto froggy once during a month. Our ptw gets additional 16k coupons. Ftp got 4k, while ptw got 20k. It's an example, dont argue with me "how can i get that much". The point is, just this little thing allows paying players be 5 months ahead of ftp players. You will never be able to compete with those players, if you both keep playing with same efficiency. Just deal with it.


    Now whether new content is rushed or not, it doesnt change the fact, that ftp cant afford anything. While adding new raw power functions like 2nd stage of myoboku allows paying players to get that power faster, ftp can get it too. Both parties need to spend exactly the same ammount of resources, which obviously favours paying players, because they have more coupons. The thing that is happening right now, namely releases of non impactful ninjas (edo jinchuurikis) actually favours ftp, since those 16k coupons that could be spent towards power are "wasted". Although, the more ninjas are released, the more likely we are to receive another meta changer, which leads to first conclusion- you cant compete with p2w.


    Now from game's perspective, rushing content doesnt make sense at all. It should be steadily implemented, yes, but neither rushed or delayed. You need to find that sweet balance, where players get new stuff but dont get bored, because there's one minor update every 1.5 months. Adding things faster will result in initial happiness of the playerbase, but will quickly disappear when the game will run out of content (and it will).


    The only feature (in my opinion) that should be rushed is implementation of Y skills and adding all basic ninjas(sannins, konoha gennins, basic akatsuki), since that both provides just a few viable ninja substitutions, as well as a reason and a goal to work towards (pokemon-skillbook collection). As long as it doesnt include ones that make top meta ninjas (looking at you susanoo sasuke, danzo & ay) this is the only feature that benefits ftp first and foremost. Updated shop would be a nice addition too, but thats 5.0 feature (if we receive same stuff as Germany), but those will benefit paying players more, because they can get more coins.


    Authors of those ftp threads seriously need to understand this- you cant compete with paying players. The same way as casual spenders cant compete with heavy spenders. If you want to be competitive, you need a certain bracket of people- compete with your other ftp fellows or find something else that makes you enjoy the game. Trust me, finding such thing makes the game a lot more pleasant :-)

to help prove your point:


coupons per month(assuming 28 days):

50/day, 350/week 1400/month, pack

20/day, 140/week, 520/month, medal

20/week, 80/month, medal pack on weekends

100/day, 700/week, 2800/month, plunder

35/day, 245/week, 980/month, convoy

250/month, sign in

20/day, 140/week, 520/month, Try your luck

10/day, 70/week, 280/month, timed daily login

1400/month, spacetime betting tokens

20/day, 140/week, 520/month, group wheel

160/week, 640/month, summon capture

240/week, 960/month, 9t

4390 f2p, 10,350 p2p(+12,300 from frog for 22,650 total)


the original numbers are for a p2p, i lowered and removed the appropriate values to fit a f2p.

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On 2018-07-19 03:11:18Show this Author Only
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  • Shadoblaze On 2018-07-19 02:36:18
  • to help prove your point:


    coupons per month(assuming 28 days):

    50/day, 350/week 1400/month, pack

    20/day, 140/week, 520/month, medal

    20/week, 80/month, medal pack on weekends

    100/day, 700/week, 2800/month, plunder

    35/day, 245/week, 980/month, convoy

    250/month, sign in

    20/day, 140/week, 520/month, Try your luck

    10/day, 70/week, 280/month, timed daily login

    1400/month, spacetime betting tokens

    20/day, 140/week, 520/month, group wheel

    160/week, 640/month, summon capture

    240/week, 960/month, 9t

    4390 f2p, 10,350 p2p(+12,300 from frog for 22,650 total)


    the original numbers are for a p2p, i lowered and removed the appropriate values to fit a f2p.

Yeah, the number you gave for F2P earnings per month is real .. I for example earns around 950 to 1.2k cps per week (depends on the RNG coupon drops like Group Wheel, Ninja Test and Survival Trial, also depends on the Events of the week) ..

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On 2018-07-19 04:36:42Show this Author Only
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  • Shadoblaze On 2018-07-19 02:36:18
  • to help prove your point:


    coupons per month(assuming 28 days):

    50/day, 350/week 1400/month, pack

    20/day, 140/week, 520/month, medal

    20/week, 80/month, medal pack on weekends

    100/day, 700/week, 2800/month, plunder

    35/day, 245/week, 980/month, convoy

    250/month, sign in

    20/day, 140/week, 520/month, Try your luck

    10/day, 70/week, 280/month, timed daily login

    1400/month, spacetime betting tokens

    20/day, 140/week, 520/month, group wheel

    160/week, 640/month, summon capture

    240/week, 960/month, 9t

    4390 f2p, 10,350 p2p(+12,300 from frog for 22,650 total)


    the original numbers are for a p2p, i lowered and removed the appropriate values to fit a f2p.

Betting in space time earns you coupons? Why do I not know about this?

Can anyone tell me more about this? Like, how much coupons can you earn each bet/fight/round?

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On 2018-07-19 04:58:24Show this Author Only
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  • SomeoneRandom On 2018-07-19 04:36:42
  • Betting in space time earns you coupons? Why do I not know about this?

    Can anyone tell me more about this? Like, how much coupons can you earn each bet/fight/round?

You can't. You can buy tokens for 10 ingots, and a win gives you 20 coupons. And a loss gives you back your token. It's not really worth the trouble. At a 2:1 only rebate, it's meh at best. A monthly card is the same thing, but you don't have to rely on betting and coming back over and over. Or the daily ingot wheel at least gives you decent odds for 3:1 and 5:1 rebates.

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On 2018-07-19 07:18:30Show this Author Only
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  • takosabi On 2018-07-19 04:58:24
  • You can't. You can buy tokens for 10 ingots, and a win gives you 20 coupons. And a loss gives you back your token. It's not really worth the trouble. At a 2:1 only rebate, it's meh at best. A monthly card is the same thing, but you don't have to rely on betting and coming back over and over. Or the daily ingot wheel at least gives you decent odds for 3:1 and 5:1 rebates.

Oh I see, thank you for explaining

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On 2018-07-19 10:34:16Show this Author Only
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  • Waka_Man On 2018-07-18 16:22:42
  • Also consider the composition of the team shown in the image, even if you are hundred thousands of power then your team composition is crap, then expect to get a lose .. And the opponent didn't use Main Character .. But if the guy used his Main Character together with Jigokudo and other one ninja with Edo Deidara, im sure he'll be dead fast .. And the reply you gave to vsai, "what if you are running the same team....", that is contradicting for what you are saying "you dont need event ninja to win". Sometimes its true that you dont need one but most of the time is not ..


    And in the video you posted, Naruto Nine Tails is not an ordinary ninja that you can get with just pulling scrolls and playing regularly .. especially if it is upgraded to 3 stars and up .. Not all the teams can do the 1 ninja full stacking tactic, specially in some cases that other ninjas should have something too ..


    P2W will never feel the way how F2Ps feel in this game ..

You were promoting to people to go for event ninjas on event rather than going for power items, What I am trying to say is better * on what ninja u got and all resources must go to power, at least wherever u go your power is always beside you and you can depend on it.

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On 2018-07-19 10:42:49Show this Author Only
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well as a f2p im not that worried coz the top one on our cluster in SWB cant 1 shot me w/ his EdoHizruzen blitz btw his 250K xD.

but the * though SO BIG and THICC its HURTS!.




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On 2018-07-19 12:47:17Show this Author Only
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  • GenjiGenjuro On 2018-07-19 10:34:16
  • You were promoting to people to go for event ninjas on event rather than going for power items, What I am trying to say is better * on what ninja u got and all resources must go to power, at least wherever u go your power is always beside you and you can depend on it.

I'm not promoting to people to go for event ninjas big time rather than going for power .. What i'm saying here is know how to balance resources and giving them the idea that not all the time, power can help them to win battles .. I know the feeling because i experienced it up until now, i focused on getting power and ended up getting beaten by players that has lower power than me .. Because of that, i started to think that i must get some ninjas from events which i find helpful in the "LONGRUN" and not just to have a "NEW ONE" (Other people tends to spend just because they want to get a New Ninja and get transformed to it to attract attention from their server mates but the thing i'm telling here is to know what's important and not) .. I gathered and collected "free" Masked Man fragments from various events and when i'm 20 fragments away recruiting him, i bought the remaining frags from the Treasure of Sage and the result, i made a team together with "Seal Scroll Ninjas" that brought me to my highest streaks in my SWB clusters during that times .. Now, another event ninja i'm getting is Angel Konan and i started getting her fragments since she came out, now i'm 12 frags away from recruiting her but while she was out of the events, i still managed to increase my power by thousands and Angel Konan is one of the ninjas that you c*e in the long run .. Then Uchiha Shisui [Kotoamatsukami], i'm currently sitting at 36/80 fragments of him as of now, and that fragments was from events that i did not even spend and it means it's all free, and now i have enough coupons to get him completed if i want to go for him all-in and he's really good, but i do consider the event where he's going to be available since i also want to get some items that can increase my power ..


Let me tell you something, don't act like someone who knows the world when it comes to this matter, concerning things about F2Ps and P2Ws when you have no idea about what you're talking about, the video you posted clearly shows that you are no ordinary player and you claims to be a F2P, just like the korean-pfp user said .. You are using Upgraded Naruto Nine Tails Chakra which is 101% impossible to get if you are a F2P .. Me, for 1 year of playing this game, i only have 2 glorified frags of that said ninja, even piecing it thru events is impossible in my assumption and a dumdum decision because it is always with power-up items which is going to contradict your statement that it is better to go for power than for event ninja ..


And me, i know all of what i'm saying here, all of it because i experienced it and still experiencing it .. I know what's my status and category in this game, and i never think of something that i know i cannot be, dealing with P2Ws is not new to me and my mind set is already programmed to accept the facts that P2Ws will always win and gets all what they want in this game, that's why i never felt getting hurt by being a loser or being salty-jelly-envy guy because other people have this glorified ninjas from day 1 it is released ..


and last but not the least, Peace ^_^v


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On 2018-07-19 17:09:51Show this Author Only
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  • Waka_Man On 2018-07-19 12:47:17
  • I'm not promoting to people to go for event ninjas big time rather than going for power .. What i'm saying here is know how to balance resources and giving them the idea that not all the time, power can help them to win battles .. I know the feeling because i experienced it up until now, i focused on getting power and ended up getting beaten by players that has lower power than me .. Because of that, i started to think that i must get some ninjas from events which i find helpful in the "LONGRUN" and not just to have a "NEW ONE" (Other people tends to spend just because they want to get a New Ninja and get transformed to it to attract attention from their server mates but the thing i'm telling here is to know what's important and not) .. I gathered and collected "free" Masked Man fragments from various events and when i'm 20 fragments away recruiting him, i bought the remaining frags from the Treasure of Sage and the result, i made a team together with "Seal Scroll Ninjas" that brought me to my highest streaks in my SWB clusters during that times .. Now, another event ninja i'm getting is Angel Konan and i started getting her fragments since she came out, now i'm 12 frags away from recruiting her but while she was out of the events, i still managed to increase my power by thousands and Angel Konan is one of the ninjas that you c*e in the long run .. Then Uchiha Shisui [Kotoamatsukami], i'm currently sitting at 36/80 fragments of him as of now, and that fragments was from events that i did not even spend and it means it's all free, and now i have enough coupons to get him completed if i want to go for him all-in and he's really good, but i do consider the event where he's going to be available since i also want to get some items that can increase my power ..


    Let me tell you something, don't act like someone who knows the world when it comes to this matter, concerning things about F2Ps and P2Ws when you have no idea about what you're talking about, the video you posted clearly shows that you are no ordinary player and you claims to be a F2P, just like the korean-pfp user said .. You are using Upgraded Naruto Nine Tails Chakra which is 101% impossible to get if you are a F2P .. Me, for 1 year of playing this game, i only have 2 glorified frags of that said ninja, even piecing it thru events is impossible in my assumption and a dumdum decision because it is always with power-up items which is going to contradict your statement that it is better to go for power than for event ninja ..


    And me, i know all of what i'm saying here, all of it because i experienced it and still experiencing it .. I know what's my status and category in this game, and i never think of something that i know i cannot be, dealing with P2Ws is not new to me and my mind set is already programmed to accept the facts that P2Ws will always win and gets all what they want in this game, that's why i never felt getting hurt by being a loser or being salty-jelly-envy guy because other people have this glorified ninjas from day 1 it is released ..


    and last but not the least, Peace ^_^v


    ..

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