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On 2018-07-14 02:31:35Show All Posts
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Being one of F2P players of this game, I also feels the way you said above, releasing things in rush might put F2Ps into frustration and making them to feel that this game is not for them anymore .. But some parts of the releases are also great for us, Power Systems and other Features .. For Ninjas, it is us who needs to understand the situation and adopt to the environment that will happen, the teams that we will encounter and etc .. In order to at the very least reach to the P2W, we must be smart enough how to play this game, where to invest and when to not spend .. How we use our resources (coupons, seal scrolls, refines, charms, cave keys and other things that has a rebates) ..


And last but not the least, set your mind and always keep in mind that you are a F2P that only have limited access to the whole game .. Making yourself to understand your status will make you play much better and less hard feelings .. People who spends money can really have huge advantage, even in real life .. So don't expect to win against someone you know P2W so it will not hurt you a lot ..


Note : v.5.0 has a lot of new features that F2Ps can and will enjoy so i'm not against it :D


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On 2018-07-14 18:42:16Show All Posts
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  • GreatOne On 2018-07-14 15:20:06
  • So please delay those future OP Rare ninjas. I am already being murdered by shishui all over the narutoverse..haha..Oasis please dont dig deeper our grave.

Hmmm .. I do agree with your statement with Ninjas .. Me too experiencing massacres from Shisui teams, with Madara and other Super OP ninjas .. Hahahaha .. Releasing new OP ninjas in short period of time will actually kill and obliterate our kind in this game .. Each and every PvP events or feature of the game .. Up until now, I'm still on process of completing my ninjas like Shisui and Angel Konan, after such long time being released, i'm still at half-way or near completing them .. Then Edo Hiruzen comes, the frustration gave it to me but, after some minutes i calmed down and said to my self, one day, i'm gonna have you too .. :D

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On 2018-07-15 00:12:47Show All Posts
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  • darzan On 2018-07-14 20:08:48
  • You guys seems to not understand that when this new op ninjas gets released it means you may start peicing them up so its not a bad Idea, If you planned better from the start, all your coupons and event resources must go all go to POWER. In every event you should check all the redeemables and plan what to go for. Missions mobilization, Luckyboard and Timelimited shop etc.. if you see charms, cave keys adv refines you must go for it, dont go for ninja fragments unless you really need that ninja and he/she must be usefull end game. All coupons you earn must go for power aswell use it to fill all your lacking resources when it comes to rebates.

    All your seal scrolls must be used wisely, this is the only way you could get a ninja. If you played for atleast one year you are eligible to get one super rare from kage treasure or GNW treasure. I suggest you go for Kage since it gives usefull rares and if you get lucky to pull Ay you will be fine on 1v1 but if you get Sasuke he is also good. You will also get the rares and try to make do on what you have and make a team that works.

    And the most important thing you have to stack one ninja, the ninja that does the damage, your carry ninja. We F2p's have a very limited resources and it takes us a very long time to be able to max out every power options on each ninja, so the best thing we can do is make a team that has one Carry ninja, the rest are supports. An example of a good carry ninja is Roshi, most of you would say go for watermain roshi poison cancer but unfortunately that doesnt work anymore on this era and what really works is pairing him with lightmain to get the lifesteal.

    Lastly, you have to level freeze, reach 69-71 and you must hold that for long thats the only way you could get adv runes fast if you dont win your sage battles you will never get a lvl10 refined equipment. You must get atleast 1st or 2nd, 3rd is ok.

With the things you said, there are some problems that i see, starting from the first line of your paragraph, if you're gonna piece this new OP ninja then where you will get the coupons you will spend for the Power you are saying .. Going all-in for power is not enough nowadays .. Even if you have a lot of power, players with 30k to 50k power less than you can easily kill you if they have a good Ninja from event .. I experienced it so many times that i face players with less power than me, but having good ninjas like Edo Deidara can easily kill me .. And if you're really F2P, you will know the frustration of having to choose what to spend and when to spend .. There is nothing such a Perfect way of spending since F2Ps always takes chances whenever they spend coupons .. Level freezing too is not an option or maybe it is but for F2P, a lot of things will be lost from freezing .. the Coupons, Magatamas and other Power-up Items that you will miss because you're avoiding the missions that gives Exp, and even if you can manage to freeze your level between 60s to 80s, it is still not possible for you to get the 1st up to 3rd place in SWBs, because we all know, within that level clusters, there's always a shark that owns 100k+ power with that level ..




This post was last edited by Waka_Man on 2018-07-15 00:21:14.
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On 2018-07-17 05:31:05Show All Posts
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  • Zathroth On 2018-07-17 00:20:47
  • You need to understand whether things are rushed or not, the gap between players will stay. Quick example, both players started playing at the same time: our fellow ftp does everything everyday, plunders, convoys. He manages to get 4k cp during a month. Our friendly ptw does the same thing, but also recharged for monthly card, has jonin medal and buys naruto froggy once during a month. Our ptw gets additional 16k coupons. Ftp got 4k, while ptw got 20k. It's an example, dont argue with me "how can i get that much". The point is, just this little thing allows paying players be 5 months ahead of ftp players. You will never be able to compete with those players, if you both keep playing with same efficiency. Just deal with it.


    Now whether new content is rushed or not, it doesnt change the fact, that ftp cant afford anything. While adding new raw power functions like 2nd stage of myoboku allows paying players to get that power faster, ftp can get it too. Both parties need to spend exactly the same ammount of resources, which obviously favours paying players, because they have more coupons. The thing that is happening right now, namely releases of non impactful ninjas (edo jinchuurikis) actually favours ftp, since those 16k coupons that could be spent towards power are "wasted". Although, the more ninjas are released, the more likely we are to receive another meta changer, which leads to first conclusion- you cant compete with p2w.


    Now from game's perspective, rushing content doesnt make sense at all. It should be steadily implemented, yes, but neither rushed or delayed. You need to find that sweet balance, where players get new stuff but dont get bored, because there's one minor update every 1.5 months. Adding things faster will result in initial happiness of the playerbase, but will quickly disappear when the game will run out of content (and it will).


    The only feature (in my opinion) that should be rushed is implementation of Y skills and adding all basic ninjas(sannins, konoha gennins, basic akatsuki), since that both provides just a few viable ninja substitutions, as well as a reason and a goal to work towards (pokemon-skillbook collection). As long as it doesnt include ones that make top meta ninjas (looking at you susanoo sasuke, danzo & ay) this is the only feature that benefits ftp first and foremost. Updated shop would be a nice addition too, but thats 5.0 feature (if we receive same stuff as Germany), but those will benefit paying players more, because they can get more coins.


    Authors of those ftp threads seriously need to understand this- you cant compete with paying players. The same way as casual spenders cant compete with heavy spenders. If you want to be competitive, you need a certain bracket of people- compete with your other ftp fellows or find something else that makes you enjoy the game. Trust me, finding such thing makes the game a lot more pleasant :-)

Very well said .. Your statement is clear and real .. It is the exact thing happening in this game ..


And your last statement is like what i said above too, "And last but not the least, set your mind and always keep in mind that you are a F2P that only have limited access to the whole game .. Making yourself to understand your status will make you play much better and less hard feelings .. People who spends money can really have huge advantage, even in real life .. So don't expect to win against someone you know P2W so it will not hurt you a lot .." ..

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On 2018-07-18 16:22:42Show All Posts
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  • GenjiGenjuro On 2018-07-18 15:28:43
  • And you just proved my point to QV that you dont need event ninjas to win, just a simple blitz team will do the job

Also consider the composition of the team shown in the image, even if you are hundred thousands of power then your team composition is crap, then expect to get a lose .. And the opponent didn't use Main Character .. But if the guy used his Main Character together with Jigokudo and other one ninja with Edo Deidara, im sure he'll be dead fast .. And the reply you gave to vsai, "what if you are running the same team....", that is contradicting for what you are saying "you dont need event ninja to win". Sometimes its true that you dont need one but most of the time is not ..


And in the video you posted, Naruto Nine Tails is not an ordinary ninja that you can get with just pulling scrolls and playing regularly .. especially if it is upgraded to 3 stars and up .. Not all the teams can do the 1 ninja full stacking tactic, specially in some cases that other ninjas should have something too ..


P2W will never feel the way how F2Ps feel in this game ..




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On 2018-07-19 03:11:18Show All Posts
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  • Shadoblaze On 2018-07-19 02:36:18
  • to help prove your point:


    coupons per month(assuming 28 days):

    50/day, 350/week 1400/month, pack

    20/day, 140/week, 520/month, medal

    20/week, 80/month, medal pack on weekends

    100/day, 700/week, 2800/month, plunder

    35/day, 245/week, 980/month, convoy

    250/month, sign in

    20/day, 140/week, 520/month, Try your luck

    10/day, 70/week, 280/month, timed daily login

    1400/month, spacetime betting tokens

    20/day, 140/week, 520/month, group wheel

    160/week, 640/month, summon capture

    240/week, 960/month, 9t

    4390 f2p, 10,350 p2p(+12,300 from frog for 22,650 total)


    the original numbers are for a p2p, i lowered and removed the appropriate values to fit a f2p.

Yeah, the number you gave for F2P earnings per month is real .. I for example earns around 950 to 1.2k cps per week (depends on the RNG coupon drops like Group Wheel, Ninja Test and Survival Trial, also depends on the Events of the week) ..

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On 2018-07-19 12:47:17Show All Posts
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  • GenjiGenjuro On 2018-07-19 10:34:16
  • You were promoting to people to go for event ninjas on event rather than going for power items, What I am trying to say is better * on what ninja u got and all resources must go to power, at least wherever u go your power is always beside you and you can depend on it.

I'm not promoting to people to go for event ninjas big time rather than going for power .. What i'm saying here is know how to balance resources and giving them the idea that not all the time, power can help them to win battles .. I know the feeling because i experienced it up until now, i focused on getting power and ended up getting beaten by players that has lower power than me .. Because of that, i started to think that i must get some ninjas from events which i find helpful in the "LONGRUN" and not just to have a "NEW ONE" (Other people tends to spend just because they want to get a New Ninja and get transformed to it to attract attention from their server mates but the thing i'm telling here is to know what's important and not) .. I gathered and collected "free" Masked Man fragments from various events and when i'm 20 fragments away recruiting him, i bought the remaining frags from the Treasure of Sage and the result, i made a team together with "Seal Scroll Ninjas" that brought me to my highest streaks in my SWB clusters during that times .. Now, another event ninja i'm getting is Angel Konan and i started getting her fragments since she came out, now i'm 12 frags away from recruiting her but while she was out of the events, i still managed to increase my power by thousands and Angel Konan is one of the ninjas that you c*e in the long run .. Then Uchiha Shisui [Kotoamatsukami], i'm currently sitting at 36/80 fragments of him as of now, and that fragments was from events that i did not even spend and it means it's all free, and now i have enough coupons to get him completed if i want to go for him all-in and he's really good, but i do consider the event where he's going to be available since i also want to get some items that can increase my power ..


Let me tell you something, don't act like someone who knows the world when it comes to this matter, concerning things about F2Ps and P2Ws when you have no idea about what you're talking about, the video you posted clearly shows that you are no ordinary player and you claims to be a F2P, just like the korean-pfp user said .. You are using Upgraded Naruto Nine Tails Chakra which is 101% impossible to get if you are a F2P .. Me, for 1 year of playing this game, i only have 2 glorified frags of that said ninja, even piecing it thru events is impossible in my assumption and a dumdum decision because it is always with power-up items which is going to contradict your statement that it is better to go for power than for event ninja ..


And me, i know all of what i'm saying here, all of it because i experienced it and still experiencing it .. I know what's my status and category in this game, and i never think of something that i know i cannot be, dealing with P2Ws is not new to me and my mind set is already programmed to accept the facts that P2Ws will always win and gets all what they want in this game, that's why i never felt getting hurt by being a loser or being salty-jelly-envy guy because other people have this glorified ninjas from day 1 it is released ..


and last but not the least, Peace ^_^v


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