https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ2m0j9pnuQ hmm from what i know it does affect damage. Unless it works only in the CN server

It might be a new patch in CN or something, you can see my tests here clearly

thanks for ur hardwork bro

what about damage reduction? it's useless too?

EDIT: delete this.

Thank you for the time you spent on testing and making this ''guide''.

However, I think it would've been more intresting if in the first case you used less tai/nin Pen than the opponent's damage reduction

and in the second case adding the tai/nin Pen chakras to have equal or more tai/nin Pen than the opponent's damage reduction.

Something like that as example:

Case 1: 2500 tai/nin Pen VS 3500 damage reduction

Case 2: 3500 tai/nin Pen VS 3500 damage reduction

I'll check out about the 2400 tai/nin pen vs 2700 damage reduction for example

and I'll check out damage reduction in general

I'll update you guys

Update guys:

Did a quick test for the Damage Reduction part:

1st fight

2411 tai pen, 2172 nin pen vs 2779 damage reduction

CRIT: 2769, 2701, 2654, 2858, 2837, 2825, 2840, 2845, 2789, 2697, 2714, 2755, 2875, 2686, 2785, 2691, 2762, 2673

Average: 49846 / 18 = 2769 damage

2nd fight

3482 tai pen , 2976 nin pen vs same 2779 damage reduction

CRIT: 2764, 2684, 2835, 2721, 2667, 2675, 2654, 2770, 2751, 2688, 2755, 2733, 2692, 2845, 2846, 2694, 2770, 2826

Average: 49370 / 18 = 2742 damage

Less damage with 1k more tai/nin pen, because of small amount of examples

the test was against me. the results we got showed there was no effect. I have still the doubt MB standard attacks are special cases, so we will retry it tomorrow with other ninjas :-)

ROFL tencent's magic.

If this is going to be confirmed with more tests, i can see just 2 position for us to take.

1) p3netration/resistance is bugged and doesn't work. It will be fixed by a later patch (like mystery delay) and we just need to wait to receive it from CN. This could be the reason why tencent waited 2 years to test this officially.

2) It's a whale stat. In CN is not inusual to see people with 7+ k p3netration/resistance without spending directly in it. Maybe it's like control and you need some big numbers (which we don't have yet) to effectively feel the difference.

Both me and ICEx made more tests and the results didn't show any difference (he will update this later, i think).

So, right now, is likely to consider it bugged as you say (i doubt is true the 2nd you said, but who knows).

Maybe, when we get next patch, lets call it 5.0, we get it fixed.

EDIT: i tested it also together with Eplox, by removing all our equipment, so we had very low stats. still there was no difference even if we had 4-5k def/res (if worked a 3k pen should do as much against a 5k def/res as a 7k do against a 10k def/res).

Great job. It’s good to finally have a definitive answer to nin/tai pen.

Thank you

Did anything change with 5.0? It doesn't look like it, but I didn't test this thoroughly.

I highly doubt , didn't have time to test yet though

Maybe pen stats affect to chance of red color damages.

Red damage is simply indicator of damage higher then 1000.