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On 2018-06-18 03:07:30Show All PostsDescending Order
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Hey guys!


Finally took some time to test out as it's been heavily requested

So it was a 1v1 duel fight where we both used Lightning Main and I used the 2nd standard attack with bloodthirsty and anbu tactics buff (because it lasts for whole fight)

The enemy was using calm mind standard, arena prowess


So I just let 2x3 duels play out until the round 10 and I was watching and at same time noting all damage numbers in a notepad

1x3 duels without tai/nin pen 8 Gates

1x3 duels with tai/nin pen 8 Gates

So it was around 1k difference in both tai/nin pen between the tests, I will show you the stats in detail below.

In both examples it was 39 non-crit standard attacks in total noted



Note: skip to end to see results if you don't want to see testing details in middle

Note2: Damage Reduction has nothing to do tai/nin pen, you can see results of my testing in comments below





WITHOUT TAI/NIN PEN



My stats

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Enemy stats

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Fight 1: 1503, 1557, 1799, 1740, 1791, 1782, 1547, 1698, 1496, 1652, 1778, 1693

Average: 20036 / 12 = 1670 damage


Fight 2: 1766, 1743, 1698, 1592, 1794, 1775, 1776, 1815, 1447, 1730, 1765, 1692, 1649, 1789

Average: 24031 / 14 = 1716 damage


Fight 3: 1562, 1755, 1655, 1668, 1777, 1819, 1780, 1728, 1766, 1653, 1680, 1716, 1760

Average: 22319 / 13 = 1717 damage


Total Average: 66386 / 39 = 1702 damage



CRIT: 2870, 2890, 3059, 2954, 2802, 2958, 2963, 2904, 3013, 2917, 2838, 2817, 2929, 2876, 2780, 3070, 2811, 2822, 2780

Average: 55053 / 19 = 2897 damage

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WITH TAI/NIN PEN



My Stats

Screenshot_8


Enemy Stats

Screenshot_9



Fight 1: 1760, 1683, 1467, 1652, 1710, 1691, 1731, 1717, 1792, 1649, 1780 , 1697

Average: 20329 / 12 = 1694 damage


Fight 2: 1683, 1788, 1777, 1663, 1652, 1781, 1779, 1794, 1660, 1809, 1773, 1666

Average: 20825 / 12 = 1735 damage


Fight 3: 1724, 1797, 1726, 1725, 1670, 1731, 1771, 1740, 1678, 1713, 1661, 1758, 1812, 1747, 1682

Average: 25935 / 15 = 1729 damage


Total Average: 67089 / 39 = 1720 damage



CRIT: 2782, 3010, 2837, 2803, 2907, 2954, 2881, 2940, 3062, 2852, 2789

Average: 31817 / 11 = 2892 damage


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Comparison and conclusion:



Average Non-crit damage: 1720 - 1702 = 18 damage difference, WITH Tai/Nin pen it was 18 higher on average in 39 examples (almost 1% difference, which is easy accomplished by damage variety)


Average Crit damage: 2897 - 2892 = 5 damage difference , WITHOUT Tai/Nin pen it was 5 higher on average from mixed examples (0,5% difference, which is nothing)


Conclusion:

Tai/Nin pen either simply don't work or requires a much higher amount than the one we can currently acquire, you can currently count on it as simply a stats that improves your power in number so you can look cooler having more power and nothing else. (and actually surprisingly it gives a lot power especially when compared to stats such as life/def/res, I got +300 more power by removing my +life 8 gates and adding Nin-pen 8 gates)




Hope it helps you guys out and that you enjoyed it! Leave a comment tell me what do you think about this




This post was last edited by ICExx on 2018-06-18 03:07:30.
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On 2018-06-17 21:35:26Show All Posts
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It might be a new patch in CN or something, you can see my tests here clearly

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On 2018-06-18 00:38:52Show All Posts
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I'll check out about the 2400 tai/nin pen vs 2700 damage reduction for example


and I'll check out damage reduction in general

I'll update you guys

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On 2018-06-18 03:11:58Show All Posts
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Update guys:


Did a quick test for the Damage Reduction part:




1st fight


2411 tai pen, 2172 nin pen vs 2779 damage reduction

Screenshot_8


CRIT: 2769, 2701, 2654, 2858, 2837, 2825, 2840, 2845, 2789, 2697, 2714, 2755, 2875, 2686, 2785, 2691, 2762, 2673

Average: 49846 / 18 = 2769 damage






2nd fight


3482 tai pen , 2976 nin pen vs same 2779 damage reduction


CRIT: 2764, 2684, 2835, 2721, 2667, 2675, 2654, 2770, 2751, 2688, 2755, 2733, 2692, 2845, 2846, 2694, 2770, 2826

Average: 49370 / 18 = 2742 damage



Less damage with 1k more tai/nin pen, because of small amount of examples




This post was last edited by ICExx on 2018-06-18 03:17:13.
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On 2018-06-19 22:28:30Show All Posts
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Thank you

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On 2018-08-19 16:54:05Show All Posts
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I highly doubt , didn't have time to test yet though

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