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On 2018-06-16 13:52:22Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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I very rarely * up in support for Oasis/Tencent etc. But I have heard over many channels people aren't satisfied with the cost/effectiveness of Edo Hiruzen.

You have a ninja who not only is buffed by any barrier/non-main elemental buff, but buffs your entire formation regardless with a 40nin/40tai for 5 rounds.

He increases his own res/def based off missing life making him extremely durable.

His mystery usable on turn 1 for 40 chakra (NIN) is like GNW Tenten on steroids because the 30 hit chase (NIN) hits even harder only requiring a few more hits after the mystery or a ninja like Jinpachi to complete (if ninjas dodge the main chase)

His standard attack hits an entire row of ninjas (TAI) and hits about as hard as his chase.

I fail to understand how anyone can possibly dog this ninja based on past practice of recharge event ninjas. (Tsunade, Nine-tails fragments, etc) This is the best ninja in 2 years of game play to ever enter a recharge event, meaning you have not spent any in game currency to obtain it; Not to mention he is a total monster.

This week gets an A+ from a top spender and long time player. If they would just delete Sakura flower event it would be perfect.

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On 2018-06-16 13:55:11Show this Author Only
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My name is Umezawa and I approve of this message.

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On 2018-06-16 14:54:14Show this Author Only
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600$ for a ninja whose cost in Germany was 12-15k coupons seems good to you?


Good for you, as a big spender myself I disagree, as does 99% of the playerbase. You are entitled to your opinion and is to ours.

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On 2018-06-16 15:01:11Show this Author Only
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Recharge = Free... compare it to a recharge slot week where you don't get anything but low level magatama and medium refine runes?

Could you even possibly say that Hiruzen isn't worth 2 gold treasure orbs?

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On 2018-06-16 15:02:48Show this Author Only
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  • Loaf On 2018-06-16 15:01:11
  • Recharge = Free... compare it to a recharge slot week where you don't get anything but low level magatama and medium refine runes?

    Could you even possibly say that Hiruzen isn't worth 2 gold treasure orbs?

and what is your feeling when you see someone get him for 500 coupons ?

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On 2018-06-16 15:12:02Show this Author Only
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  • Raizel Di Cadiz On 2018-06-16 15:02:48
  • and what is your feeling when you see someone get him for 500 coupons ?

I still have 30k ingots... the fact that players get rare ninjas by chance is just a flaw of the game.

By my opinion they should give every player fragments for a reasonable rate/value off wheels, I disagree with 80x to 1-2 random participants but its nothing new, it's what they do.

I'd rather recharge $600 than spend $1000 and not get it in a "fair rng wheel"

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On 2018-06-16 15:32:45Show this Author Only
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If you're willing to spend that much for a character go ahead, not stopping you. As far as this week is concerned, it's bad. Long-time spender and heavily disappointed. Last week was much better.




This post was last edited by Regn on 2018-06-16 23:49:10.
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On 2018-06-16 15:38:29Show this Author Only
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so is he good fighting same powered guys?

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On 2018-06-16 16:15:42Show this Author Only
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  • nutshasa@gmail. On 2018-06-16 15:38:29
  • so is he good fighting same powered guys?

nope watch kaizer video

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On 2018-06-16 16:44:57Show this Author Only
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  • nutshasa@gmail. On 2018-06-16 15:38:29
  • so is he good fighting same powered guys?

nope not at all

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On 2018-06-16 17:32:31Show this Author Only
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He can be used a support though. Position 1 would be shisui. Everybody talking him as postion 1 ninja which is not entirely true but his buff can support all types of ninja. He also as tanky as hinata (same passive). Edo hiruzen with edo hashirama would be devastating as hiruzen act as support.

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On 2018-06-16 18:25:23Show this Author Only
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Oh he will be a monster when they spend their 30k ingot to up bp by a ton more. Bottom line, whaler's powerhouse. All they need to do is maintain top bp. Not hard right XD.

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On 2018-06-16 21:07:55Show this Author Only
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it's just they look at the 30k like if was his cost when is not actually, even if is hard to understand why 30 fragments of him gained in lucky * are comparable to 50 fragments of naruto ninetails chakra...

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On 2018-06-16 21:30:02Show this Author Only
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Recharging any amount equals spending money. You cannot get ingots back into $$ so hiruzen costs 600 this week, it is not free.


You want to lay that much for a ninja then knock yourself out, but saying that he is free is a dellusion.


Yes you can convert those 30k ingots into other stuff, but would you have gotten so many ingots any other week? If the answer in no then you are spending those 600$ for Hiruzen.

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On 2018-06-16 21:56:18Show this Author Only
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  • Armand_ On 2018-06-16 21:30:02
  • Recharging any amount equals spending money. You cannot get ingots back into $$ so hiruzen costs 600 this week, it is not free.


    You want to lay that much for a ninja then knock yourself out, but saying that he is free is a dellusion.


    Yes you can convert those 30k ingots into other stuff, but would you have gotten so many ingots any other week? If the answer in no then you are spending those 600$ for Hiruzen.

yep, that's exactly how it is.

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On 2018-06-17 00:07:09Show this Author Only
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its because we dont have percentages which increases his dmg like ridiculously

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On 2018-06-17 01:32:06Show this Author Only
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look at kaizer new video in swb. he using edo hiruzen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX_CBxkyA-M

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On 2018-06-17 02:00:26Show this Author Only
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  • Loaf On 2018-06-16 15:12:02
  • I still have 30k ingots... the fact that players get rare ninjas by chance is just a flaw of the game.

    By my opinion they should give every player fragments for a reasonable rate/value off wheels, I disagree with 80x to 1-2 random participants but its nothing new, it's what they do.

    I'd rather recharge $600 than spend $1000 and not get it in a "fair rng wheel"

" the fact that players get rare ninjas by chance is just a flaw of the game." yeah those people who got lucky for once in a lifetime. While people like you buy everything they want there's no shame in getting a ninja from lucky ninja packs or lucky stars wheel for once. I got Hokage Minato from Lucky Stars Wheel at s.881 and ruled with it pretty much until someone took out their wallet. It's not about which ninja you have or not it's about how much money you can throw into the game






This post was last edited by Exvius on 2018-06-17 09:22:06.
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On 2018-06-17 03:25:37Show this Author Only
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Hiruzen is only good if you have a huge power gap with your enemy, which means you need to have at least 20k and above power above your opponent in order to 1 shot them with hiruzen round 1. If you can't do so and your opponent survive after round 1, first thingg they gonna do round 2 is cc your hiruzen and earth main so you can't use earth main's mystery on hiruzen. Third round your team still stays on cc. The other team gonna hit your team to death.

Watch this video of 2 whales in german server fought against each other. This is a perfect example of why Hiruzen isn't worth 30k ingot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeLPJ-l-3-0. Remember people in Germany have tactic percentage

And I have to admit the event this time is way worse than other weeks events, except the froggy event





This post was last edited by ShinjiIkari on 2018-06-17 03:47:44.
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