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On 2018-06-14 01:53:35Show this Author Only
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  • Oujingbing On 2018-06-11 20:37:26
  • I agree to this post but only half. What all matters in this game is initiative. It should be called INITIATIVE ONLINE. Just now in fighting matsuri, i fought 2 enemy with 98k power and 100k + power and still beat them with my 78k power. This is not even my main account and dont focus to play at. Even i know its their fifth attack and their main ninjas are dead so the remaining has trolled formation or something. It doesn’t prove that higher battle power always has their ways. They even attack first position 1. So battle power matters not neccessarily entirely true. Yes, I admit that higher BP always has the edge, but hey dont underestimate lower BP than you around 5k difference. Its rare to beat someone higher than you 20k power above.IMG_1871IMG_1873IMG_1872

Taking a look at those screenshots I can tell you a few things, Initiative did not win you those battles, contributing factor, sure. I think its safe to assume you are using Dance mystery for your main, that is a HUGE factor in you winning. You can launch twice as many mysteries in the same time. Another factor is your clone wall absorbing standards, another factor is Edo Deidara and Kisame.


Hardly Initiative Online, while important it is far from the be all, end all.

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On 2018-06-14 02:12:30Show this Author Only
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  • Sammyjay On 2018-06-13 05:25:35
  • Very true, though barrier ninja are still highly valued for many parts of the game at this point. I would say having the total initiative advantage is not as huge now for some teams, though good initiative is really useful, even more so for interrupter ninja like shark Kisame, which if po1 and faster can stop your opponent from getting any mystery that turn. Its definitely a stat that one should't be ignoring if their trying to do well in pvp that's for sure.

yep.

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On 2018-06-14 06:51:27Show this Author Only
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There's quite a few builds now that can be done if you're expecting to lose init. As long as you can reasonably predict what you're about to face and the power disparity isn't huge, you can adjust accordingly for it.


As for the OP, BP padding all 4 ninjas would make it easier for teams that focus to win, so I guess if some players are happy following your advice and seeming strong on paper, its a win-win situation for us and them :P

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On 2018-06-14 16:53:34Show this Author Only
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  • Oujingbing On 2018-06-11 22:07:39
  • But has more like 20k power higher. And even faster, you read my post whole post right? Even let say, picture one, gakido change to roshi, and then became han roshi cancer. Im confident that i can still beat it. So your opinion is half true half false regarding battle power.


    Then whats the point of your post saying BAttle power matters? That overall power of your team and it matters. Well you may be right, you also be wrong.

    You said: let me give you a straight answer derived drom my long years of experience and my numerous attempts to be the strongest ninja in my server experience as well..YES IT IS. Now anyone can argue this with me...but battle power serves as a measurement for your unit's total strength in the game. Let me repeat that again..it is a MEASUREMENT of your total strength in the game, just like kilos is to weight, kilometers to distance and so on and so forth.

    And you said to me that i have better ninja but lower power vs higher BATTLE power you insist strongly that it matters. Well wheres the logic, we are talking about BAttle Power ,you contradict yourself.

It wasn't me who made the most, I haven't said anything about battle power. I am just saying you won because your team is many times stronger than the teams you fought against, that is all.

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On 2018-06-15 00:05:52Show this Author Only
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Hello thnx for the effort of making this thread, i want to add some things as well. Going for raw battle power such as attack - nin - life - res - def is good ok, but leaving aside sub stats such as critical injury control and elemental resistances is the biggest mistake. Let me give you an example. 150k power can defeat 200k power if the guy with the 200k power has raw stats buffed such as attk nin, while the other guy can have tons of injury critical initiative. Plus team formations always plays a major role in fights. Having a counter team ready for your opponent is a big threat. Thank you, have a nice day !

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On 2018-06-15 17:42:59Show this Author Only
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  • Jori. On 2018-06-15 00:05:52
  • Hello thnx for the effort of making this thread, i want to add some things as well. Going for raw battle power such as attack - nin - life - res - def is good ok, but leaving aside sub stats such as critical injury control and elemental resistances is the biggest mistake. Let me give you an example. 150k power can defeat 200k power if the guy with the 200k power has raw stats buffed such as attk nin, while the other guy can have tons of injury critical initiative. Plus team formations always plays a major role in fights. Having a counter team ready for your opponent is a big threat. Thank you, have a nice day !

Actually no, this is not true.

The guy with 30k atk/nin and 0 critical/injury always land more damage than the guy that have 15k atk/nin and 15k critical/injury. it's just that costs way less to reach 15k injury/crit once you own 15k atk/nin than to reach 30k atk/nin.

That said, suggesting to go for elemental resistances when is more than 1 year that +3 and +4 ceased to be available in game is a very bad tip. +2 are in no way better than +50/60 resistance or than +60/70 damage reduction, because they are situational and getting +20% in all of them right now has a too high price to pay to be worth it (and then appears the hokage minato burst team or the eight inner gates lee blitz and flat out own you).




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2018-06-15 17:49:57.
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On 2018-06-16 13:21:07Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-06-15 17:42:59
  • Actually no, this is not true.

    The guy with 30k atk/nin and 0 critical/injury always land more damage than the guy that have 15k atk/nin and 15k critical/injury. it's just that costs way less to reach 15k injury/crit once you own 15k atk/nin than to reach 30k atk/nin.

    That said, suggesting to go for elemental resistances when is more than 1 year that +3 and +4 ceased to be available in game is a very bad tip. +2 are in no way better than +50/60 resistance or than +60/70 damage reduction, because they are situational and getting +20% in all of them right now has a too high price to pay to be worth it (and then appears the hokage minato burst team or the eight inner gates lee blitz and flat out own you).

It is bro. I saw a fully stacked kimmimaro with earth main(109k total power) beating itachi susano team with 160k+ power.You read it right 2 ninja beating 4 ninjas with 50k power handicap.




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On 2018-06-17 04:06:28Show this Author Only
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  • JustSaying On 2018-06-16 13:21:07
  • It is bro. I saw a fully stacked kimmimaro with earth main(109k total power) beating itachi susano team with 160k+ power.You read it right 2 ninja beating 4 ninjas with 50k power handicap.

Need some more info but would make sense since both team would be about even in power or the kimm would be stronger with 4 full, kimm becomes a tanky god the more hes hit so a blitz setup would stall out once its built. I expect that there was a control failed once or twice, cause i can see a easy win for the itachi team with itachi shisui madara and wind main with dance, since you could lock down the two units with chaos for pretty much the whole battle that way.

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On 2018-06-17 04:28:08Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-06-15 17:42:59
  • Actually no, this is not true.

    The guy with 30k atk/nin and 0 critical/injury always land more damage than the guy that have 15k atk/nin and 15k critical/injury. it's just that costs way less to reach 15k injury/crit once you own 15k atk/nin than to reach 30k atk/nin.

    That said, suggesting to go for elemental resistances when is more than 1 year that +3 and +4 ceased to be available in game is a very bad tip. +2 are in no way better than +50/60 resistance or than +60/70 damage reduction, because they are situational and getting +20% in all of them right now has a too high price to pay to be worth it (and then appears the hokage minato burst team or the eight inner gates lee blitz and flat out own you).

Hello, 1st of all, i have tested 20% elemental resistance with roshi with same power same injury ( 18k both people's substats) the guy with the 20% elemental resistance didnt get almost nothing from my roshi's chase, while i had 8% and i got obliterated. 2nd of all, As i said I Have a lot of proofs in videos that guys with Substats stacked can kill players with 50k difference in bp in raw stats stacked, so please accept the facts and dont spread misleading information, I didnt say that stacking raw stats are bad , but leaving aside Substats can be heavily dmg you in a battle against someone stacked in subs. Thnx for your opinion, appreciated, i just wanted to explain. I didn't say leave Raw stats such nin attk, i said do it along with the substats. I have several info material on videos. Thnx. Take care. PS : Elemental Resistances are 100% must .




This post was last edited by Jori. on 2018-06-17 04:28:53.
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On 2018-06-17 04:35:53Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-06-15 17:42:59
  • Actually no, this is not true.

    The guy with 30k atk/nin and 0 critical/injury always land more damage than the guy that have 15k atk/nin and 15k critical/injury. it's just that costs way less to reach 15k injury/crit once you own 15k atk/nin than to reach 30k atk/nin.

    That said, suggesting to go for elemental resistances when is more than 1 year that +3 and +4 ceased to be available in game is a very bad tip. +2 are in no way better than +50/60 resistance or than +60/70 damage reduction, because they are situational and getting +20% in all of them right now has a too high price to pay to be worth it (and then appears the hokage minato burst team or the eight inner gates lee blitz and flat out own you).

actually here, the proof, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bvEqwCgeaI&t=326s 185k vs 235k

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