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On 2018-06-02 08:26:40Show All Posts
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Keep in mind Edo Roshi gives you a barrier that buffs Jinchuriki.

So you could use him with Killer Bee 7 Sword and Sage Naruto and see how that works. (Yes I know you may not have them, but imo its the best way to fully get the most out of Edo Roshi)

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On 2018-06-04 23:34:50Show All Posts
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  • UchihaItachy On 2018-06-04 22:02:10
  • Kurama naruto team is better with normal roshi. Dont build a team around edo roshi. He is useless. F2P to Low p2w cannot win the barrier war since you need higher overall initiative for barrier, not to mention there are a few barrier breaker ninjas.

People really need to stop saying he is useless.

People also need to stop comparing Roshi [4 Tails Jinchuriki] to Roshi [Edo Tensei].

They both perform DIFFERENT ROLES.

Roshi [Edo Tensei] is a support to your Jinchuriki a lot like [Killer Bee 7 Sword Style] is a support.

Roshi [4 Tails Jinchuriki] is a barrier breaker and can become a tank provided it isn't blitz'd down. That is it.

2 very different jobs.

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On 2018-06-05 02:45:59Show All Posts
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  • UchihaItachy On 2018-06-05 00:41:46
  • The word useless is short for: edo roshi's role, no body is gonna use cus the alternatives are so much better.

And he still isn't useless as you haven't provided any evidence of him being useless.

Apples and Oranges m8.

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On 2018-06-05 05:59:04Show All Posts
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  • Shyuko On 2018-06-05 04:32:52
  • ....and you have yet to provide an actual "useful" option that replaces current desired lineups. Face it, he is a niche ninja at best, but overall, about as useful as the many, MANY level 1 ninjas that you haven't bothered to lvl and cultivate. He is TOO reliant on too many variables that unless you are a big spender (or top dog in a new server) aren't realistically going to utilize. So lets break it down:

    Useful? No.

    Viable? No.

    Replaceable? Yes.

    Worth going for? No.

    If you got him as a byproduct when you were spinning for giggles or Sasori, then awesome, you got something for free......personally I wouldn't recruit him and wait to pull him in the edo jinhuriki draw (when released) to 4 star him.....because he really isn't worth rushing to recruit now.

I stated what he is meant for, which is to BUFF jinchuriki. What you choose to run him with is up to you.


So he is useful, he is viable and replaceable not so much, At least not until we get Edo Fu for *ternate barrier.




This post was last edited by RenjiAsuka on 2018-06-05 06:00:07.
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On 2018-06-05 08:52:50Show All Posts
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  • Shyuko On 2018-06-05 08:47:35
  • Again, his BUFF is only in effect if you can maintain barrier. Sadly you won't. Therefore, he is useless. Most people either run barrier breakers, or cancel barriers. THEN there is the fact that unless you are literally the creme de le creme in your server/group of servers, you won't even win barrier battle when matched up against another barrier user.

    THIS is what makes him either a NICHE ninja at best case scenario or completely useless at normal situations.


    So yes, my assessment still stands that he is replaceable, isn't viable, and certainly not worth spinning for. He just isn't worth it.

That depends on server cluster or if x-server or single server. Not everyone has Shark Kisame, not everyone has Normal Roshi. But a lot of people have manual barriers or other auto barriers. Which either just leads into initiative or you needing some kind of interrupt (FYI Yagura can cause acupuncture and he is buffed by Roshi).

Sorry counters are irrelevant and doesn't create a good argument.

Example, people complained about Mei/Mabui/Tenten even though there was counters but it was still "OP".

People then complained about immortal teams despite choosing not to either blitz the ninja down or bring ignite.

Still doesn't stop the fact that Edo Roshi IS a support ninja.

FYI I never stated anything about spinning for him being worth it or not. So that statement of yours is irrelevant.

Your whole assessment is based of "hurr durr there is counters hurr durr". Which doesn't create a strong foundation for any argument.




This post was last edited by RenjiAsuka on 2018-06-05 08:55:28.
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