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On 2018-05-27 22:46:12Show All PostsDescending Order
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Hello guys

I tried to search for this but nothing comes up. Well, one comes up but it was an old topic. So I decided to create this topic.


I just want to know what teams you find broken as of this moment. Let's not include ninjas that we do not have in our version yet. By broken teams, I mean teams that can beat players 20K BP above them and does not own initiative. You c*so share on how you would counter such teams and what ninjas/lineup you would use in order to counter the said broken team. To start off, here is a team that I find broken and I also find it hard to counter (I svck at team building). Please note that this is based on my opinion and experience. Our bar starts at 70K-90K BP range (20K BP difference).


nar


Reason why I find it broken:

I find this team broken because round 1, there is nothing much you can do. You are forced to do a standard attack battle which greatly favors Edo Deidara. 4 shark summons and 4 exploding clay spiders (if 4 shark summons die from standard attack and repulse damage) with chakra gain. At round 1, Edo Deidara has a guaranteed critical increase from the clay spiders, not to mention the shark summons are squishy so that's already assuming at least 1 shark summon dies from standard attacks from opponents, then that means Edo Deidara is already guaranteed at least 12% critical increase.


At round 2, it becomes a mind game. Edo Deidara can launch his mystery without a care in the world if you interrupt him or not because he can still be cleansed by Jinpachi or CF. If you interrupt him, you are saved from the AOE damage but then again, you are back to the standard attack battle which again favors Edo Deidara and let's be honest, even at 20k more BP, you cannot kill him with one full combo or I am mistaken and there is a team that can kill him in one full combo? If you do not interrupt him then you get bombarded with his mystery.


By round 3, probably one of your ninja is dead from damage and ignite or if they are all still alive, then they have very low health in which case they are at the verge of death and Jinapchi is there to finish you off together with clay spiders.


Possible counter:

Only lineup I can think of that can counter this is using full immune teams like Kurama Naruto, Roshi and Bee SST.




This post was last edited by icebuken on 2018-05-27 22:46:12.
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On 2018-05-27 22:30:07Show All Posts
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  • Garv On 2018-05-27 21:47:53
  • On late game mechanics the easiest counter i see for the team you showed up is any team with azure fang in move 1 with shark bomb, water style flowing whip (or even taijutsu attack), neurotoxin and experimental ninjutsu.

Seems viable but it's too random. Even at 20K more BP, there is still a chance that one of the supports do not get chaos because there are shark summons remaining and iirc, shark bomb only hits 4 units.

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On 2018-05-27 22:33:20Show All Posts
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  • sushie182 On 2018-05-27 22:09:11
  • as f2p, Han really helps me to compete with high lvl people.

    I use this setup:
    Mei-Jonin Minato-Han

    Fire Main-x-x

    x-x-x

    Summons: Gamaken
    4-4-1-2-1


    This team helps me to defeat Hokage Minato Wind Main team and also Kushi Light Main root team.


    Sorry if my answer wasnt the right one for this tpoic.
    :)

It's okay. As long as you can share some of your experience which might help other players that have the ninjas that you use. As for me, I don't have Mei and Jonin Minato (my luck svcks as well).

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On 2018-05-28 00:12:39Show All Posts
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  • Jibulover On 2018-05-27 23:03:49
  • what team you use ?

I'm using the typical SB, Shisui, MM and Itachi Anbu team with Shiba as my Summon Mystery.


nar




This post was last edited by icebuken on 2018-05-28 00:13:08.
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On 2018-05-28 04:44:10Show All Posts
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Better start getting Edo Deidara then. 65 more frags for him which will take a while since I'm aiming for power as of this moment. Trying to get those clothing because I've been stuck with Summer Youth Sai since forever.

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On 2018-05-28 05:46:07Show All Posts
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  • Danzō On 2018-05-28 05:32:50
  • You should probably get earth grudge kakuzu after. I me*l you have to do is look at the battles in China and it's all about him and his skillbreaks.

Yes that's my plan. I have also seen him a lot from China Space Time but I need to piece him slowly and painfully like I did with most of my event ninjas cause my luck svcks big time.

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On 2018-05-28 22:00:44Show All Posts
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  • Cond1 On 2018-05-28 07:44:18
  • That one is broken too, so no complaints pls

I'm not complaining. I'm just sharing a team that I find broken because it can beat a team that owns initiative and has 20K more BP. Experienced it myself or maybe I messed up during that fight. I controlled Jinpachi with Shisui round 2 and CF with MM (this is where I think I messed up because his pos 3 CF was able to cast double standard mystery even if my pos 2 MM already had the mystery icon above his head even before CF casted his double standard mystery which led to Jinpachi being cleared and my whole team was ignited).

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On 2018-05-28 22:13:14Show All Posts
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2018-05-28 22:07:21
  • Any team with Shisui is OP. (Yes I'm salty not because I don't have him but for how ill designed he is)

I wouldn't really say that any team with Shisui is OP because I have beaten Shisui teams before using the Kushimaru blitz or maybe because I had higher pos 1 ini and Kushimaru was stacked pretty well. Dodge teams are just a bit tricky i guess.

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On 2018-05-28 23:16:37Show All Posts
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  • vergil111 On 2018-05-28 22:42:45
  • you are wrong my bro

    the problem is that he is lower 20K power that the earth team and does not own initiative

    if use shisui, i doubt if he can control successfully or kill enemy before chaos disappear


No you got it switched. The CF running the team with Edo Deidara, Shark Kisame and Jinapchi is the one that is 20K BP below that does not own initiative.

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On 2018-05-28 23:18:06Show All Posts
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  • Garv On 2018-05-28 22:34:07
  • when your move 1 is 16k+ critical is not random at all, deidara, main and jinpachi are always chaosed, the only issue is kisame but Kisame will be hit for 3 full rounds by flowing whip that is a mid-high combo standard (+30% basic combo). Acupuncture is close to be granted. Add to it water style water trumphet and king of hell/crustacean/guy's tortoise and is done.

16k+ critical in move 1 no longer belongs to the said power bracket stated in the post. That means it's already in the 120K+ BP I assume. The condition above states that this lineup is still at the 70K-90K BP range.

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On 2018-05-29 01:18:21Show All Posts
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  • xxMihai On 2018-05-29 01:00:27
  • The only way they can beat me is with more INI, even then if I CC right the reset cooldown + remove poisons is too much for that newbie team.

    Water meta teams are always the most annoying at first but die eventually, leaving some people who had them in denial, thinking they are still good. :D

    With the ninjas we have now it's a miracle anyone plays that team, it's only because alot of noobs think Lightning Main with Root and Shisui is a good idea, when it is the noob idea.

I wouldn't really call it a noob lineup. We are limited to use lineups from the ninjas that we have. I was also using that lineup before because it's the only viable team that I had. Once I got other ninjas like Edo Sasori, Jinpachi and Kushimaru, that's when I started using the Kushimaru blitz. When I finally pieced MM and Shisui, that's when I started using them. Again, we are limited to use lineups from the ninjas that we have unless we spend a lot in game which gives us easier access to ninjas. Calling them noobs just because they use this lineup would be, for me, just plainly and outright rude.




This post was last edited by icebuken on 2018-05-29 01:19:51.
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On 2018-05-29 01:47:31Show All Posts
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  • Garv On 2018-05-29 01:29:17
  • even higher :-) but yes in the 90k range no, doesn't work, indeed.

    at your range of power shisui, madara/itachi anbu, masked man, sb/bd or kushimaru blitz with a move 3 or 4 jinpachi should be able to beat that team.

I used Shisui, MM, Anbu Itachi with SB and failed miserably. Controlled Jinpachi in round 2 with Shisui but for some reason the pos3 CF was able to cast double standard mystery before my pos2 MM even if I have spammed MM mystery right after Shisui mystery. Do note that MM mystery icon was already on top of his head even before CF double standard mystery appeared over the head of CF or should I have controlled CF with Shisui and Jinpachi with MM instead?




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On 2018-05-29 04:34:51Show All Posts
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  • icebuken On 2018-05-28 00:12:39
  • I'm using the typical SB, Shisui, MM and Itachi Anbu team with Shiba as my Summon Mystery.


    nar

This is the team that I used when I faced that lineup in the first post.

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On 2018-05-31 03:19:20Show All Posts
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  • Fuma- On 2018-05-30 17:58:49
  • Hey bro, I use a water main variant of that kisame team you have a problem with. Shisui is a waste of time against it as kisame is a barrier breaker, try teams that incorporate kushimaru, he gets a lot of extra damage because of the high number of summons he can kill, also his mystery can stop deidara turn 2. Good luck.

Thanks bro. I have given up on it. I've already accepted the fact that my team just won't work on this team. I only encounter this line in SWB so I just avoid the player at all cost rofl. There is only 1 player in my SWB bracket that uses this lineup. The rest of them are still using Mei/Tenten, Han/Roshi/SS, and then the Kushimaru Blitz. I can beat most of them pretty easily. Some are close fights but this is the only lineup where I only have 20% win rate (if my Itachi gives auto attack to Shisui instead of MM). I can force Itachi to give Shisui the standard by not using MM but I like MM's utility.

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