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On 2018-05-14 19:30:25Show this Author Only
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  • ICExx On 2018-05-14 18:31:11
  • It's stated in his skill description that his buff doesn't work with Main Character enhacements, I saw it from Chinese and Germany version translations


    I don't know when he might come, don't think of it as any kind of leak as I don't have that info

ohhhh i see thank you btw , but i really hope he come soon

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On 2018-05-16 08:46:00Show this Author Only
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Just wondering if there is any updates on how the konoha/akatsuki and madara buffs went?

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On 2018-05-16 22:03:19Show this Author Only
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  • Sammyjay On 2018-05-16 08:46:00
  • Just wondering if there is any updates on how the konoha/akatsuki and madara buffs went?

Hey I tested Madara + Itachi Susano who is both konoha and akatsuki ninja and it worked fine according to tests.

Here are the results


Screenshot_2

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On 2018-05-17 00:15:49Show this Author Only
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  • ICExx On 2018-05-16 22:03:19
  • Hey I tested Madara + Itachi Susano who is both konoha and akatsuki ninja and it worked fine according to tests.

    Here are the results


    Screenshot_2

Interesting, sadly you lack Angel currently to run as a comparison and I don't have Itachi susano to run the tests my self. From the basic attack at least its clear that there is a buff, I do wonder why it seems that S Sasuke and Orochimaru chases aren't effected at least on my end. I would be quite interested to see the results if you are ever able to get Angel as well.

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On 2018-05-17 05:28:21Show this Author Only
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  • Sammyjay On 2018-05-17 00:15:49
  • Interesting, sadly you lack Angel currently to run as a comparison and I don't have Itachi susano to run the tests my self. From the basic attack at least its clear that there is a buff, I do wonder why it seems that S Sasuke and Orochimaru chases aren't effected at least on my end. I would be quite interested to see the results if you are ever able to get Angel as well.

I guess since chases do low damage so it's hard to compare the differences, especially as you can see in my tests there appeared a 8.6k once in both without and with the buff, I guess I could try Orochimaru later also just to be sure

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On 2018-06-17 13:44:11Show this Author Only
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  • ICExx On 2018-05-17 05:28:21
  • I guess since chases do low damage so it's hard to compare the differences, especially as you can see in my tests there appeared a 8.6k once in both without and with the buff, I guess I could try Orochimaru later also just to be sure

Just got itachi myself, so going to test under varied conditions with the madara and angel buff. Some quick prelim result, there is signs that they do stack, though there is a bit of weirdness with the highfloat chase, there is enough there to say that they both work. However, there potency appears to be less than just a shisui barrier can give, and the madara results are not as distinct as the just angel ones. More testing to come though.




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On 2018-06-17 20:53:05Show this Author Only
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  • Sammyjay On 2018-06-17 13:44:11
  • Just got itachi myself, so going to test under varied conditions with the madara and angel buff. Some quick prelim result, there is signs that they do stack, though there is a bit of weirdness with the highfloat chase, there is enough there to say that they both work. However, there potency appears to be less than just a shisui barrier can give, and the madara results are not as distinct as the just angel ones. More testing to come though.

Might be true yes, do tell me once you test something

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On 2018-06-27 02:22:51Show this Author Only
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  • ICExx On 2018-06-17 20:53:05
  • Might be true yes, do tell me once you test something

Thank you so much for the info.

I am wondering if hokage minato's buff stack with Earth main's 40% resistence and 20% defense. Thanks.

Kind Regards,

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On 2018-06-27 20:20:19Show this Author Only
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  • Kenzaga On 2018-06-27 02:22:51
  • Thank you so much for the info.

    I am wondering if hokage minato's buff stack with Earth main's 40% resistence and 20% defense. Thanks.

    Kind Regards,

Yes it does, however hokage minato and normal hiruzen won't stack together, but they both will with Earth Main

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On 2018-07-31 01:45:49Show this Author Only
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What's the formula for stacking buffs anyway? Let's say we have a Minato attacking while under the effects of Iruka's Passive (30%), a barrier (40%) and a WM's passive (40%). Is the net increase 30+40+40=110% or 1.3*1.4*1.4=2.548 (154.8%)?


EDIT: I did some minor testing with a pretty small sample size, but it looks like the buffs are additive (i.e. 30+40+40). Confirm/debunk pls?




This post was last edited by Maboroshi13 on 2018-07-31 02:16:35.
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On 2018-08-01 06:00:01Show this Author Only
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  • Maboroshi13 On 2018-07-31 01:45:49
  • What's the formula for stacking buffs anyway? Let's say we have a Minato attacking while under the effects of Iruka's Passive (30%), a barrier (40%) and a WM's passive (40%). Is the net increase 30+40+40=110% or 1.3*1.4*1.4=2.548 (154.8%)?


    EDIT: I did some minor testing with a pretty small sample size, but it looks like the buffs are additive (i.e. 30+40+40). Confirm/debunk pls?

Yes it's the 30+40+40=110% one, quite simple

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On 2018-12-25 18:43:21Show this Author Only
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I wrote this in "Buffs that DO stack" section, but I will post my question here just as well.

I suppose that if 3. works with Guy, then Earth Main Defense Knowledge should work with Chiriku. Chiriku has +40% to defense and resistance to all Konoha ninjas, and Earth main has +40% resistance and +20% defense. So if Guy works, so should Resistance increase just as well.



I simply got Chiriku now, and I had the idea of making my Itachi+Sasuke Susanoo' (both) with Chiriku, and I was Lightning Main, then I had idea to switch to Earth and hope to have almost indestructible team, yet my Itachi still takes beating and has his health go down quite a lot no matter what, as if he doesn't takes any buffs consisting of (while this unit is on the field...). Maybe I just need further testing, but imo either Chiriku doesn't work, or there's something else...since I should have +80% resistance buff and +60% defense, but it feels that Itachi is just so weak on defense, makes me question whether something is not broken or incomplete. I tested it in Arena. It's hard to test when it is being affected by a lot of factors and there are all sort of players with different buffs and no buffs. I tested against my +/- equal player mate from the group, but I still couldn't tell the difference...at one moment his ninja hits 250 with my buffs on, the next he hits 405 without my additional buff from my main, and third time with buffs on again, he hits ~350... not a * clue if it works or it's just so * RNG within the stats and how they play against each other.

In my opinion, he's not working...just like Edo Hanzo wasn't working at first.



P.S. It's not mentioned, but Chiriku chase is from Knockdown to Lowfloat, since in my chase he does it, but it's not written on his bio information.




This post was last edited by smaddeus on 2018-12-26 09:00:51.
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On 2018-12-26 21:38:08Show this Author Only
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I'll need to test Chiriku myself


I think I'll do a thread on it to see if he works and if he stacks with Hokage Minato/Earth Main

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On 2018-12-27 04:56:29Show this Author Only
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  • ICExx On 2018-12-26 21:38:08
  • I'll need to test Chiriku myself


    I think I'll do a thread on it to see if he works and if he stacks with Hokage Minato/Earth Main

Thanks. Please do. I need some clarification from others too. I read some comment replies on other threads regarding Chiriku where I commented, and some people have responded with similar opinions about it. I tested with one of my group buddies, but I couldn't really tell, the damage just varied from multiple tries that I couldn't really tell and I got more confused about it.

I don't feel the defense or resistance increase even if I use no other buffs, for example, Susanoo brothers with Chiriku and LM that has only Anbu and Root skills, so there is no conflict between whether something stacks, yet I still take a punch as if no buff I had at all.




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On 2018-12-27 05:32:23Show this Author Only
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https://forum-narutoen.oasgames.com/page/show-post-37995-1.html


I forgot to test Root of Warrior though sorry :/

But I don't see a reason why it wouldn't stack with it if it stacks with Earth Main

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On 2018-12-27 06:34:41Show this Author Only
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I was just mentioning what I used, not that it was something to be taken in testing though. But thanks...




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On 2018-12-30 08:38:40Show this Author Only
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Thank you for the Info it really helped with my team

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On 2019-08-24 17:56:46Show this Author Only
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Sorry to ressurect an old post but how about now that Iruka get increased to 40%. Does he not stack with say Hiruzen or so? and do he stack with say bee or something now?




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On 2019-08-28 01:12:23Show this Author Only
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Buffs with the same % on the same number of rounds won't stack . That's the basic rule.

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On 2020-04-16 09:35:17Show this Author Only
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Do things like iruka and danzo barrier buff stack?

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