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On 2018-05-13 01:32:09Show All PostsDescending Order
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Hey guys!



Alright so this thread will be about detailed view into buffs stacking , mostly about which ones specifically won't stack with each other.



-First off , to make it clear none of the same ninjas buff will ever stack in bond arena/GNW (so if you have 2 team mates who are both using Konan, only 1 Konan buff will work)

-Second, ALL SHIELDS ALWAYS STACK





Now let's talk about WHY certain buffs don't stack with each other before I list things:


Certain buffs don't stack because they are essentially same buffs, they have same % of same attribute (atk/nin) and same amount of rounds.

If only 1 of those things in description is different then it will stack , for example different %, different amount of rounds, different attribute (for example def/res buffs will stack with atk/nin even if other parts of description are same)



Now all has been tested and confirmed, I will make another thread full of screenshots later and will edit the link to it here

Edit:

Buffs that DON'T STACK proof

Buffs that DO STACK proof






Buffs that don't stack with each other:

30% atk/nin for 3 rounds (description)


-Iruka

-Killer Bee

-Samui

-Edo Sasori

-Konan

-Playboy Sasuke

-Jugo

-GUY



So none of these ninjas listed above stack with each other, but with all other buffs they will (and yes I know Guy has only +atk but it doesn't stack simply)





Buffs that don't stack with each other:

30% atk/nin for 5 rounds (description)


-Hashirama/Tobirama

-Mifune

-GNW Ino (yes she doesn't have the same description but this was tested and confirmed, my best bet is to believe that her description in game is wrong and it's actually 5 rounds and not 3, she stacks with Iruka/Bee/Sasuke/Konan/Samui etc)



EDIT: My doubt was confirmed and GNW Ino buff DOES actually last 5 rounds,in video you can notice Fire Main doing constant 5k+ until round 6 where he suddenly does 4k- damage, here is video proof

NOTE: Hashirama and Tobirama by themselves will stack because one is Tai and other is Nin.

NOTE2: Hashirama and Tobirama skillbook +1 passive stacks with Mifune/GNW Ino AND ALSO stacks with another Hashirama/Tobirama who has passive without skillbook.









Buffs that stack with everything:


-Pains (Shurado/Chikushido/Gakido/Ningendo)

-WB Asuma

-Edo Asuma

-God Angel Konan 20% buff

-Madara 20% buff

-All Main Character attribute buffs (until Edo Hiruzen comes, they don't stack with his buff)

-Earth Main "Pose of Duel"

-Earth Main "Guidance"

-Lightning Main "Warrior Killing Intent"

-Lightning Main "Anbu Special Tactics"

-Fire Main "Ninjutsu Urge"

-Fire Main "Red Lotus Secret"

-Wind Main "Queen Momentum"

-Wind Main "Wind Dance"

-8 Gates Guy buff at 3 stars

-GNW TenTen/ TenTen

-Hiruzen / Hokage Minato

-Healing Tips (Hokage Tsunade, Water Main, Shizune) (NOTE: they stack with each other also)

-Any Chakra Buff (e.g. God Angel Konan, Lightning Main "Heart Flux", 3rd Raikage passive)

-Scalling Ninja buffs (e.g. Roshi, Kushina Habanero, Edo Deidara passives)




Note: Fire Main "Ninjutsu Urge" and Lightning Main "Anbu Tactics" STACK with each other AND STACK on 2-3x (you could use 3x Anbu tactics in GNW and will get 75% atk buff)





That would be all for now, as always tell me if you have any questions!




This post was last edited by ICExx on 2018-05-13 01:32:09.
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On 2018-05-12 06:45:01Show All Posts
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  • s660-Neijin On 2018-05-12 04:59:54
  • Sasuke playboy+iruka and any - working.

    Konan angel+madara pls tested - buff different, pls proof

I can't test the Konan and Madara one yet since I don't have Konan nor do I have Susano Itachi/Sasuke, I will try to find someone who has them to test it for proof
But I see no reason why they would stack it's exactly the same words for both buffs


As for other proofs I'll post them tomorrow

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On 2018-05-12 17:36:30Show All Posts
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Yes yes the chakra buff passive from Madara will still be active of course, but the 20% buff from either Madara or Konan shouldn't be active as they will overlap each other toward buffing Sasuke


If you could provide me with actual testing screenshots on discord or here I would be thankful

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On 2018-05-12 20:29:08Show All Posts
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Thank you for the screenshots, I think it's a good enough evidence so I will edit the thread

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On 2018-05-13 00:22:58Show All Posts
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Edit:


I ran a lot of tests now and GNW Ino is the only exception from the 30% atk/nin for 3 rounds group for some unknown reason.

She will stack with everyone except Mifune/Hashirama/Tobirama , I will edit it in the proof thread also




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On 2018-05-13 06:24:29Show All Posts
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Huh that test is quite weird, did you try comparing both Madara-Konan together ? was it same as only Angel around 4,7k damage or was it something like Shisui barrier around 5,5k damage (it should be there if they stack)

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On 2018-05-13 07:25:21Show All Posts
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Very interesting, I'll test Madara buff myself also tomorrow on both only Konoha ninja and Konoha+Akatsuki ninja.

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On 2018-05-14 18:29:48Show All Posts
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  • Garv On 2018-05-14 09:35:20
  • are you really sure that anbu special tactics effect stack also for the damaging part?

    i'm sure the leaching part stack, but i'm not that sure the atk part do... (to be honest i don't even think the atk part is cross team).

I posted my testing results in "buffs that DO stack" thread, I can do some more testing with LM for it also later though

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On 2018-05-14 18:31:11Show All Posts
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  • Raizel Di Cadiz On 2018-05-14 14:35:36
  • Wait did you say ( until Edo Hiruzen comes ) !!!!!! so are we will got him in next week ( i'm not saying this will happen , or give an expected or falsified information

    ) , but are we will get him ??? It's just a question and thank you for your player guide

It's stated in his skill description that his buff doesn't work with Main Character enhacements, I saw it from Chinese and Germany version translations


I don't know when he might come, don't think of it as any kind of leak as I don't have that info

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On 2018-05-16 22:03:19Show All Posts
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  • Sammyjay On 2018-05-16 08:46:00
  • Just wondering if there is any updates on how the konoha/akatsuki and madara buffs went?

Hey I tested Madara + Itachi Susano who is both konoha and akatsuki ninja and it worked fine according to tests.

Here are the results


Screenshot_2

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On 2018-05-17 05:28:21Show All Posts
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  • Sammyjay On 2018-05-17 00:15:49
  • Interesting, sadly you lack Angel currently to run as a comparison and I don't have Itachi susano to run the tests my self. From the basic attack at least its clear that there is a buff, I do wonder why it seems that S Sasuke and Orochimaru chases aren't effected at least on my end. I would be quite interested to see the results if you are ever able to get Angel as well.

I guess since chases do low damage so it's hard to compare the differences, especially as you can see in my tests there appeared a 8.6k once in both without and with the buff, I guess I could try Orochimaru later also just to be sure

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On 2018-06-17 20:53:05Show All Posts
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  • Sammyjay On 2018-06-17 13:44:11
  • Just got itachi myself, so going to test under varied conditions with the madara and angel buff. Some quick prelim result, there is signs that they do stack, though there is a bit of weirdness with the highfloat chase, there is enough there to say that they both work. However, there potency appears to be less than just a shisui barrier can give, and the madara results are not as distinct as the just angel ones. More testing to come though.

Might be true yes, do tell me once you test something

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On 2018-06-27 20:20:19Show All Posts
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  • Kenzaga On 2018-06-27 02:22:51
  • Thank you so much for the info.

    I am wondering if hokage minato's buff stack with Earth main's 40% resistence and 20% defense. Thanks.

    Kind Regards,

Yes it does, however hokage minato and normal hiruzen won't stack together, but they both will with Earth Main

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On 2018-08-01 06:00:01Show All Posts
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  • Maboroshi13 On 2018-07-31 01:45:49
  • What's the formula for stacking buffs anyway? Let's say we have a Minato attacking while under the effects of Iruka's Passive (30%), a barrier (40%) and a WM's passive (40%). Is the net increase 30+40+40=110% or 1.3*1.4*1.4=2.548 (154.8%)?


    EDIT: I did some minor testing with a pretty small sample size, but it looks like the buffs are additive (i.e. 30+40+40). Confirm/debunk pls?

Yes it's the 30+40+40=110% one, quite simple

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On 2018-12-26 21:38:08Show All Posts
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I'll need to test Chiriku myself


I think I'll do a thread on it to see if he works and if he stacks with Hokage Minato/Earth Main

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On 2018-12-27 05:32:23Show All Posts
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https://forum-narutoen.oasgames.com/page/show-post-37995-1.html


I forgot to test Root of Warrior though sorry :/

But I don't see a reason why it wouldn't stack with it if it stacks with Earth Main

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