Please, do tell me how this is not OP and every time I enter Arena there are only these guys, wind mains with Minato and Masked, and Kurenai, or LM with BROKEN Kushimaru, and mostly all of them have higher ini. I am playing with LM, 4th A, samui and Darui, I barely have any new ninja from GNW treasure. Personally, I stand almost no chance in beating any of them unless I have higher ini, and/or enemy doesn't know on which ninja to use Masked Man which gives me advantage of sort in that case, but I can still loose because the damage I deal is not enough or pointless, because of the * mirrors and OP Scarlet's (transvestite) shield debuff mysery.
If someone knows how to beat this, give me a sign. P.S. I have no HANS, so I wont be able to clear the mirror.

In these examples, even if you take down Fire Main, you still going to lose because Shisui and Masked is just bad combination that you need luck to win, and hope that enemy with this setup is dumb at using mysteries, or is on auto. In my case, using 4th A is always useless against these setups, so I just rely on luck only, which never ends well. Not to mention that, fire main will place his shield anyway, so there is no tag for my 4th A.

Not sure against what Fire Main players and with what teams you are playing against, or what ninjas you pick as being one, then you are not using the meta, which I hate that this game is doing such thing as making metas instead of balancing out and allowing to play with mains and ninjas that you like and can compete. There is just no competition, it's generic in this game, same stuff, repeats all the time, only winner is who has higher ini and is lucky to not step in the lame 4.0 mystery delay by the server latency or whatever, which they *ed up, so no idea for how long we have to wait for 5.0 since they do not care to patch it in the middle, but only in these 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 4.0, 5.0's which is almost after each 6+ months. for * reasons.
Game is not working like your average game, it has lame schedules of everything, even patches and updates that do not come when they are needed, because they have lame schedules for simple fixes.

Not all, but most of LM ninjas that works with him are squishy, but there are some that aren't. For example against most players 4th A is kind of squishy, and comparing to Kushimaru...Kushimaru is not squishy at all in the standard meta team with LM, Iruka, and I think Jinpachi(?) the explosive "sword", he is too broken and is not squishy at all, way too much damage and way too many times he c*e his mystery. What else...back in the day Mifune wasn't squishy as well, he was a sturdy mf.

But yea, mostly all these ninjas for unknown reason are too squishy and does not output enough damage against equal opponent, it's either too underpowered, or just OP broken.
I know that 4th A is OP in general, but at this current meta...I just don't see it, but I know he is super broken with maxed skillbooks (not including skillbreaks), but until skillbooks, which will be expensive I suppose, he just isn't as OP as people think when you constantly meet these metas with masked man's and Shisui's, which only by luck can be beaten.

I understand your point about that whales only use, who are at low % in a comparison, but think it like this - those who are not whales, do they often use someone that is at disadvantage if they do not have the right ninjas to be competitive? Like...if they do not have Shisui and Masked, you think they will take FM? nope...so basically all the Fire Mains that you see all use these whale ninjas, you wont see really average player running with fire main that doesn't have any of these ninjas that cannot compete.

Instead of that, they will take someone else with ninjas they have, such as brken Kushimaru, so here comes the other current lightning main metas which you can't really beat easily if you have no Han and you are lower on Ini, because Kushi just deals ridiculous amount of damage, his mystery lasts for 5 rounds basically.

Because it's so easy for him to get those Technique points that he just runs the mystery on 2 enemy targets immobiling them each round, and there's just nothing you can do about it, except be lucky that Han took down the immunity and shields, and hoping that he is squishy for you, since Kushimaru is not actually squishy and people say, and I am basing it on my experience, not easy to kill at all, it's like hitting a rock and hoping it will finally break apart. And this meta is not whale meta, everyone can get this setup from GNW treasure, just have to be lucky in drawing these two ninjas at early start.

Other meta that is, is Wind main.. immunity, reset, annoyingly sturdy clones, kurenai, one of the two minato's, and whatever else ninja that I forgot, usually masked man as well...but then again, those are whales playing with it, or just some lucky people that got lucky at drawing a ninja from lucky wheels or such. Or, if neither of them, then I have stumbled upon older metas that still work if has higher ini, such as Roshi, Han, Water Main, Sailor or Kurenai. They still work and is the best alternative meta that can compete against every other, but then again, those water mains tend to be squishy, but aren't always squishy, sometimes they feel they are strong as rock as well and can get you into trouble if you haven't killed her in round 1 or 2.

Imo one of the this games balance breaking ideas was, and still is, the fact of such existing thing as "meta". Having mains that you are forced to switch just to compete on generic level is another balance breaking idea too, but "meta" idea is bad as well...every time a new ninja comes, almost every time, because there are such collection ninjas that aren't really good but only if you like to collect ninjas, such as Hanabi or any other Hinata versions, those are underpowered and are meaningless to use, like having a hardened plastic statue covered in gold, and all you can do is to throw it at the enemy, but it will just hurt him, and your statue will break. But I am specifically talking about such new ninjas as Shisui, Masked, and Jonin Minato, and Itachi Anbu who is sturdy af and not easy to kill. They will always make the next meta, and no one will ever use any of previous meta ninjas because they just don't work on competitive level. Ever saw Rock Lee being used? he is way too squishy. Ever seen Shino being used? pff no...not even at early levels, just barely... heck he never was part of any meta anyway, because there is no balancing and competitive ninjas, it's just that each time a new ninja arrives, he creates competition and thus makes the meta.

The idea of "meta" just *s. Remember old time games if you ever played, where you could choose whatever class you want and you will still do fine with it, because it has his strong points, and has its own weaknesses, but at the same time each of those classes are universal? what I mean is that you c*e that one for everything, not specific things, despite the fact that you c*e only magic, or only swords, you could still do things YOUR way without being forced to change class just to do that one crap level or crap boss, all you needed was weapon that deal enough damage, or enough upgraded skills, but at the end, you could play with whichever class you want...but here, you are forced basically, otherwise, good luck and * your thumb with the constant losses.

For that with double mirrors (each player has a mirror), you must attack first with the debuff, then he will receive the debuff you intend to use, otherwise, if he uses it first, you'll get the debuff at the end. It works like this - you send the debuff first, it reflects on his mirror, his mirror is down now, that debuff that deflected from his mirror WILL DEFLECT at your mirror and he will receive the initial debuff.

Plus, you can't prove your point because you are running whale vs whale ninjas, you have masked man and minato...you are considered as whale too, or definitely as pay to win yourself. When equal people match then it's obviously going to be a fight who has the initial and right universal ninjas that works against anyone. In those cases you have no reason to blame on mains if it's 1:1 teams and setups, it's just a broken game idea to have metas as such, no competition.

I can blame both metas and mains because I don't have those ninjas, and almost always I stumble upon these metas in arenas that I can't do anything against, and the fact that these metas are boosted with the skills of those specific mains or ninjas that can fight independently without the buffs and skills of the main, which are considered in that case as somewhat broken, or op.

Because I forgot which ninja was the 3rd one that goes with the setup, since I always see kurenai around, so I took her instead, just for the sake of the point, imagine that fire main then uses fire buff instead of mirror since he uses kurenai, not a big difference, point still stands.

Depends which mystery you take then...but if you got Shisui you don't need that other mystery that sets aflame enemy units...Shisui will do it for you while you c*e mirrors...