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On 2018-04-22 02:30:11Show All PostsDescending Order
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Hey guys!


So this thread is about discussing each summon from the new feature, things like:

-Good points

-Bad points

-Best for what type of teams



Without further ado let's start:





Pakkun:


Good Points:

You can actually do decent damage with him + the tag will amplify your mystery damage even more by reducing enemy def/res (so really good if you use a Main Character at pos1 with damage mystery)

Trigger dodge.

The damage from it will especially be notice-able if you have best gear on your pos1 Main Character.

In my opinion this summon is perfect for new players who don't have better pos1 ninjas and therefore keep using Main Character.


Bad Points:

Pretty much only 1 bad point for him, is the fact that he has a 1 round Battlefield Cooldown therefore it's useless to use him when you are running a round 1 mystery from your Main Character (which pretty much all old players run round 1 mystery because they use Main Characters as supports)


Best for what team:

Simply he is best for any team that runs position 1 Main Character with damage mysteries (so mostly for newer players/early game)

Other than that he can find use in Wind Main dance of impetus or Water Main heal teams(especially Hokage Minato teams) if you have lower initiative you can wait out your enemy mystery and then use Wind Main dance of Impetus/Water Main heal to secure yourself some tags and do some damage in the meantime.

Also keep in mind that he retains the Poison Tai/ Neurotoxin effects from Water Main so it can be very nice.





Ninja Dog Shiba:


Good Points:

Serves as a meat shield, especially useful for Earth Main who doesn't have clones and for Lightning Main where you would pretty much never use clones.

Has decent hp/attack, also providing some additional tankiness to your Main Character by giving extra % resistance buff.

0 Battlefield Cooldown


Bad Points:

Bad if a repulse damage ninja is in front of him , especially the ones that feed of clones (Kushimaru , Lightning Main).

the % resistance buff doesn't improve the shields you gain from Earth Main/Fire Main mysteries.


Best for what teams:

Pretty much any Earth Main/Lightning Main/Fire Main team where you use the round 1 mysteries you should be using either him or Katsuyu.

Especially if you are in need of some extra protection thru clones, be sure to position your Main Character for it.





Gamachu/Ninja Monkey


Good Points:

They increase 40% atk/nin (Gamachu = Nin , Monkey = Atk) for 1 round which is great for a Position 1 Main Character nuke type.

You can trigger dodges thru them and they do decent damage.

Unlike Pakkun it's 3 round cooldown and not only 1 time usable per fight.


Bad Points:

1 round Battlefield Cooldown

Only good for damage type Position 1 Main Character teams.


Best for what teams:

So same as Pakkun you'd mostly want them in either Pos1 Main Character teams(buff>tag) or in Wind Main dance of impetus/Water Main heal team. (however the 40% is kinda useless in those teams so you'd maybe prefer using Pakkun or Monkey King).

Generally I wouldn't recommend much to use these summons, a true good way to use Gamachu is the Water Main Shark Bomb spam neurotoxin team.





Katsuyu:


Good Points:

Heal + 1 debuff remove

0 round Battlefield Cooldown


Bad Points:

Pretty much there aren't any


Best for what teams:

So same as Ninja Dog Shiba, definitely best for any kind of round 1 mystery team by Earth/Lightning/Fire Main (although if you are using shield mystery with Fire Main then I'd rather recommend using Ninja Dog Shiba)

Katsuyu finds the most use in Earth Main and Lightning Main teams (Now there is a way to remove immobile with Lightning Main after Masked Man hits your pos1 ninja).





Monkey King:


Good Points:

As it has the same effects as clone talents from Main Characters it can be useful.


Bad Points:

Meat Shield with 1 round Battlefield Cooldown is not really a meat shield.

Very often your main will be controlled in round 2 therefore the summon will be useless.


Best for what teams:

Pretty much only for Water Main heal/ Wind Main dance of impetus teams.

No good reason to ever use it on Lightning and Fire Main.

For Earth Main it can be good if you are using your 2x standard mystery on round 2 (although still Katsuyu could be better depending on the situation)





As always feel free to comment ask a question , leave a suggestion, tell me if I forgot to mention something important! Hope you find it helpful !




This post was last edited by ICExx on 2018-04-22 02:30:11.
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On 2018-04-22 04:04:41Show All Posts
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  • Hinu Hyuga On 2018-04-22 03:42:42
  • I feel like Pakun is also good for later game players, since by then you will start getting a lot of dodge skills. I know it's really nice on me to know I can burst someone down, since I broke their dodge.

Yes I did say he is good for triggering dodge, however as a later game player you would pretty much never use a Position 1 Main Character.


Only if you want to specifically counter someone in let's say Space Time

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On 2018-04-23 03:30:54Show All Posts
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  • JustSaying On 2018-04-23 00:26:47
  • Monkey king gives you a clone so, I should be able to do double ignite(4th passive of fire main) and run unparalleled?

Sure if you use his damage mysteries, although in that case you'd want to use Gamachu or Pakkun rather maybe.


Just keep in mind that Monkey King battlefield cooldown is 1 round

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On 2018-04-23 16:56:58Show All Posts
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  • DepressedSenju On 2018-04-23 08:16:08
  • I need help... How do u start a post?



You just go to a section where you want to post and at top left corner it says "create"

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On 2018-04-25 18:28:11Show All Posts
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  • Feral Shade On 2018-04-25 07:37:19
  • Am I correct in my understanding that Pakkun is the only one of the 6 that DOESN'T require a breakthrough stone to level up?


    considering the challenge in getting the Katsuyu Stone this week, i suspect that other stones would also be very rare---like that Deer Contracting Scroll or something.


    So leveling potential might also be something to consider (for the 99% of us who don't drop a ton of money into the game, lol)

Pakkun and Shiba are the only ones who don't require it yes


The stones will be event only so most likely will cost some coupons etc exactly

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On 2018-04-26 02:29:07Show All Posts
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  • Maboroshi13 On 2018-04-25 19:03:06
  • Do you think Gamachu/Ninja Monkey is the best choice for 9tails? Since with maximum upgrade you'll technically be able to get them twice in 5 rounds

Yes for sure since they buff your Main Character also they are the best option for 9tails (depending whether you need attack or ninjutsu buff you pick one of them)

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On 2018-05-31 21:18:52Show All Posts
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  • K Senko On 2018-05-31 20:08:46
  • Thanks for the neat detailed post :)

No problem as always

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On 2018-06-11 02:32:11Show All Posts
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  • dk2544 On 2018-06-11 01:53:29
  • i'm kinda new to this forum stuff, but that's not the point. My question is does cultivation for the summon(stat boosts/chase damage) affect how much damage the summon mystery does? for example 10% chase damage, does it boost the mystery? if not ive wasted mine on pakkun.

Doesn't boost the mystery , only chase damage sadly

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On 2018-06-11 04:24:26Show All Posts
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  • UchichaRakiri On 2018-06-11 03:57:45
  • Hmm gamachu give 40% nin,so water will heal more? That seem like good idea to boost healing

Not really actually, I am pretty sure the % nin/res buffs DO NOT affect heals/shields because they are based on basic attribute only


Good idea for a future thread I'll come to you guys with proof

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On 2019-01-03 23:16:09Show All Posts
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  • 1stSlayer On 2019-01-02 08:44:06
  • Why cant i change my summon animal? i have been changing it but it will be the same as the last time

    answer please thanks

Hm are you doing it in the right place ?


Just go to your ninja/team tab > talents > select summon

change it there and then click the X *on and that's it

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On 2019-01-06 20:30:55Show All Posts
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Just visual effect, the summon walking next to you


Having them as a "pet" is achieved

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On 2019-02-22 06:49:51Show All Posts
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  • iAshleyxoxo On 2019-02-21 03:39:34
  • how do i get the ninja monkey breakthrough stone? also I've been seeing a couple players with summons as pets how do i enable that function?

Ninja Monkey breakthrough stones are mostly just in Treasure of the Sage event these days


having summons as pets is with the contract scrolls that you can get in xGNW packs or in random events also

you enable it by reaching a certain cultivation hexagon on the summon, not all summons have it

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