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On 2018-03-23 12:09:56Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Who needs shiny expensive ninjas when you can have power....

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On 2018-03-23 12:48:16Show this Author Only
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This is true to a certain degree IN THE PAST but for our current version it’s not really the case. With op ninjas come out month by month, these ninjas are capable to carry your whole team. Just power won’t get you far because let’s face it, you will most likely fight people around your bp in sage and if they have premium ninjas and you don’t, high chance you gonna lose. I’m speaking from my experience tho, I used budget team MB, Itachi, Sasuke, Iruka to top my sage bracket but when I fight against people with premium, they always give me a hard time even tho sometimes I have higher bp. Well but now I’m using Shisui after months of saving, lost 2k bp but sage is certainly easily to top for me now.

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On 2018-03-23 13:22:30Show this Author Only
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  • ZWen On 2018-03-23 12:48:16
  • This is true to a certain degree IN THE PAST but for our current version it’s not really the case. With op ninjas come out month by month, these ninjas are capable to carry your whole team. Just power won’t get you far because let’s face it, you will most likely fight people around your bp in sage and if they have premium ninjas and you don’t, high chance you gonna lose. I’m speaking from my experience tho, I used budget team MB, Itachi, Sasuke, Iruka to top my sage bracket but when I fight against people with premium, they always give me a hard time even tho sometimes I have higher bp. Well but now I’m using Shisui after months of saving, lost 2k bp but sage is certainly easily to top for me now.

That's actually pretty far from the truth. I could easily put together a Lightning Main blitz team using regular rares like Darui or Danzo and blitz down people at my power level. Unless we counting regular seal treasure rares as premium, then it still comes down to power. It's also allocation of power, just cause on paper your stronger don't mean in practice it is also true.

I shown what I could do with Hokage Minato to someone stronger than me but around my power level, Hokage Minato doesnt even fall into the category of ninjas that been coming out month after month. The recent units we have been getting are not even meta definers.

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On 2018-03-23 14:20:47Show this Author Only
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Shisui is the first one, Tobirama while not really a meta changer now because he serve as a support but he gonna be in the new meta that is coming in a few months.

When 2 blitz team clash together the one with higher initiative win and initiative alone is not exactly power. I've fought many blitz team in sage, I have lower bp but higher initiative. My shisui easily destroy the other team.

My point is, ignore premium ninjas and just focusing on power is an old and not efficient method with our current version. You can collect premium ninjas while still increasing your bp with the current version easily. Yes I understand the point of budget teams because I used it too but don't mistake it for "pay a lot of money then use weak team and stomp ppl with much more lower bp" like what you did in your video. I mean when you fight people from 60 to 80k hp while you have over 100k hp then maybe just use Sakon Ukon blitz or meme team.

Before you make a guide, know your target audience first, people who don't have A LOT of money, f2p are the one who need to use budget team and their bp uasually not 60-70k over their opponents in sage. Their bp are only vary around 40k-60k bp because after 60k they should be able to get 1 or 2 premium ninjas if they know what they are doing.

The team you are using is bad, give it to a normal f2p around lv 70-80 with 40-60k in sage, believe me people will rekt that team hard because the power gap is not high enough.
The guide of your look like this imo :
- Step 1 : Recharge

- Step 2 : Repeat step 1 until you get like 50k bp higher than you sage bracket.

- Step 3 : Process to make a team with f2p ninjas and call it a budget team.

I mean if someone who can recharge or freeze lv long enough to have at least 50k bp over their enemies might as well just buy premium ninjas and be done with it lulz.


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On 2018-03-23 17:03:20Show this Author Only
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If you own 50k power advantage on your enemy you can go there with team 7 and you win. One of the big whales showed it.

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On 2018-03-23 22:24:29Show this Author Only
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  • ZWen On 2018-03-23 14:20:47
  • Shisui is the first one, Tobirama while not really a meta changer now because he serve as a support but he gonna be in the new meta that is coming in a few months.

    When 2 blitz team clash together the one with higher initiative win and initiative alone is not exactly power. I've fought many blitz team in sage, I have lower bp but higher initiative. My shisui easily destroy the other team.

    My point is, ignore premium ninjas and just focusing on power is an old and not efficient method with our current version. You can collect premium ninjas while still increasing your bp with the current version easily. Yes I understand the point of budget teams because I used it too but don't mistake it for "pay a lot of money then use weak team and stomp ppl with much more lower bp" like what you did in your video. I mean when you fight people from 60 to 80k hp while you have over 100k hp then maybe just use Sakon Ukon blitz or meme team.

    Before you make a guide, know your target audience first, people who don't have A LOT of money, f2p are the one who need to use budget team and their bp uasually not 60-70k over their opponents in sage. Their bp are only vary around 40k-60k bp because after 60k they should be able to get 1 or 2 premium ninjas if they know what they are doing.

    The team you are using is bad, give it to a normal f2p around lv 70-80 with 40-60k in sage, believe me people will rekt that team hard because the power gap is not high enough.
    The guide of your look like this imo :
    - Step 1 : Recharge

    - Step 2 : Repeat step 1 until you get like 50k bp higher than you sage bracket.

    - Step 3 : Process to make a team with f2p ninjas and call it a budget team.

    I mean if someone who can recharge or freeze lv long enough to have at least 50k bp over their enemies might as well just buy premium ninjas and be done with it lulz.


First things first, the video was to show people that you don't need premium ninjas to be strong in this game. The message is literally premium ninjas without power backing them don't amount to anything. You must prioritize your power first at least till you hit the threshold where you start getting diminishing returns. You can have all the ninjas in the game but if I have 30k BP over you, it'll be never impossible for you to kill me. In high power fights its not who has the shinier ninja wins. Its who has power and tactics win.


Also Shisui is not a meta breaker. Yes his skill kit is nice but he is far from forming a meta of his own. His barrier and mystery is nice to tack onto a team that can benefit from it, but he's never the ninja that is going to carry you. He pales in comparison to Kurama Naruto and Edo Deidara, who actually form their own teams.

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On 2018-03-23 23:18:42Show this Author Only
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There's at least $2500+ for a L10 charm set, and another $5000+ for 5 L10 refines.

That's not "budget" for 99.99% of the pop in this game. You're capping on several BP systems and everyone knows the true cost of capping such systems.

You'd also double your kill streak if you insert "p2p" ninjas into your setup. Someone running a blitz team who put 1/4 of what you dumped onto your main will outscore you. 10 wins and 6k pts is very very low for top tier sage, specially with a 68k slot 1 ninja. Video kind of proved f2p setups don't cut it in the current (and future) phase of the game.




This post was last edited by s177 Kira on 2018-03-23 23:19:42.
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On 2018-03-23 23:25:01Show this Author Only
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  • KawaTheTori On 2018-03-23 22:24:29
  • First things first, the video was to show people that you don't need premium ninjas to be strong in this game. The message is literally premium ninjas without power backing them don't amount to anything. You must prioritize your power first at least till you hit the threshold where you start getting diminishing returns. You can have all the ninjas in the game but if I have 30k BP over you, it'll be never impossible for you to kill me. In high power fights its not who has the shinier ninja wins. Its who has power and tactics win.


    Also Shisui is not a meta breaker. Yes his skill kit is nice but he is far from forming a meta of his own. His barrier and mystery is nice to tack onto a team that can benefit from it, but he's never the ninja that is going to carry you. He pales in comparison to Kurama Naruto and Edo Deidara, who actually form their own teams.

If I could use any ninja's available currently and lower by bp to 30k less than you. I will beat you.

You're relying on your main to do all the damage. All it takes is some control and you're a sitting duck. Your other 3 ninjas are absolutely dealing no damage whatsoever versus someone 30k lower. Many people can back me up on this from experience, it doesn't even take the top grade ninjas to beat your setup.


*For example, how do you counter the typical Itachi Susano chaos on your main, then Obito immobile on your Sakura. R2 rinse and repeat, by R3 your other 3 ninjas would be barely living since you chose to stack your slot 1. I've fought people 20-30k less by BP running these control setups and at the end of the fight they're standing with 90% of their HP. I wasn't even running something as terrible as this setup.


Don't take this as a brag post, but f2p setups doesn't cut it these days even with a 30k advantage. Oh heck I lost to someone half my BP 90k vs 180k when I plundered with the wrong tab (ran Konan, Shurado, Animal Path vs Roshi ,Kurenai, Fatman, Windmain). You can call me bad at this game but I think that team was "enough" but it clearly wasnt. That's a 90000 bp difference and I lost.




This post was last edited by s177 Kira on 2018-03-23 23:32:19.
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On 2018-03-24 02:00:42Show this Author Only
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i aint read nothing but power is 60% of the battle, the other 40% is having good ninjas to back up that power, i fight 90k LM, iruka, darui and mifune teams, as a 75k with shisui, masked man and itachi anbu, i NEVER lose, and that isnt exaggeration

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On 2018-03-24 11:11:59Show this Author Only
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Wow, always 'control failed' on your main. But, if you also meet a Shisui with the same power as your position 1 ninja even though your whole team got a 30K BP advantage, you will have a hard time.

@Jinga, I believe you are in the same SWB as me. My ign is Batugan XD

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