Yesterday on Bonds, my partner's minato [jonin] had & has way more init than my Ay[3rd] and i went first, also it happend a few times against other lower level bp's which for sure had less init (he is 80k bp and has the init of a 90k bp so no way 60-50ks can go first with him in the field).

Server756, me DarthVader, him Killmoves.