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[ Before anyone writes a recommendation, please, read what I have written, and take a look at my ninjas list, because it is pointless to write down a lineup with ninjas I do not, or wont have anytime soon, unless you mean it as general lineup recommendation not meant for me, but for everyone who is looking for a counter team against these Shisuis, Itachis and Masked Mans teams. Thank you. ]


I'm in real despair and sick fighting against these Shisui bs giveaway copy past teams that I encounter 80-90% of my total fights, the classic Shisui-Itachi Anbu with Lightning Main immunity buff or Fire Main dumb mirror who tends to use Masked Man(logical choice for pay to win)... I'm tired of loosing in Arena and going up(or down, how you look at it) till -12 points with these *s, up and down, never in +.


So, my lineup currently is LM with 4th raikage, Samui, and Darui, since previous one didn't worked anymore, which was Earth with both Raikages and Samui. It actually did worked a bit, but I simply copied this lightning main team from a * rival who finally quit playing.


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And bare in mind, I do not have Masked Man, I do not have Han, I do not have any of the ones who can remove buffs such as immunity, neither I have Roshi who is immune 100%, weirdly enough 4th Raikage should be immune even against Masked Man, I mean, it is just 1 round buff with 3 turn cooldown, unlike Roshi who is immune to everything thorough whole battle...I mean, Ultra Rare ninja vs Super Rare....logic. Anyway, sorry for ranting, the stuff has building up in me and I just need to take it out since for me a lot of stuff doesn't make sense in this game, and when I think I found it, I actually haven't at the end, since something happens that makes me to start to question how the hell this game works again.


Anyway, here is my list of ninjas. P.s. I do not plan to invest in GNW treasure any seal scroll anymore, right after I got 4th Raikage, it fulfilled my dream that barely can ive up to the fame when these Shisui's are running around constantly.


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And another three are Kiba, Shino, Choji, but highly unlikely anyone will ever suggest them :D

So who can come up with something against Shisui from this list? I am a strong lightning user as you can see, I adore Raikage's, since I struggled to get them as well, so I wouldn't like to see them go to waste right after I got them, though I didn't got them just now, 4th was two months ago or so, and 3rd was a month after the lightning treasure release.

Here are some more of info about what I use, if someone think some stuff should be arranged differently.


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I know I should have invested those 135 coupons to get another treasure tool on A rank, and last one as well, currently I am kind of spending on different power ups, such as Mt.Myoboku thingies.

Here are some Moods of my current ninjas. Now I noticed, that maybe I should use ninjutsu mood on Darui, since he mostly uses nijutsu rather than taijutsu, so the attack doesn't make sense, despite the fact that game suggests on using it on Attack or Life, same with Samui, I don't believe that def is strong, maybe life because of growth, but in general since she buffs with shields, and shields use resistance stats, then it's all on resistance with her, to give that blitz security for two rounds max if not more.


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Can someone explain why Lightning Main requires defense or life if he even has attack as highest from stats? def just doesn't work.


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Basically, I need something against Masked Man, Shisui+Itachi Anbu, and Fire mirror or Lightning Main Immunity.

I have tried mirror ninjas, but they just are too weak and they are first to be killed since people know who is better to aim considering the situation.







This post was last edited by smaddeus on 2018-03-07 04:49:46.
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On 2018-03-04 01:47:37Show All Posts
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  • goalie720 On 2018-03-04 01:30:19
  • Given that you are missing the usual ninjas used to remove immunity, your best bet might be to use wind main with sage arts mystery. Takes a little bit to bait the shisui dodge to make sure sage arts hits, but theres 3 ninjas getting immunity removed. That should make life considerably easier. As for a team to go with that, that would depend on what you have. Samui, samehada bee (if you have him), and 4th ay could be particularly devastating as thats 2 light armor ninjas going off r1 putting out a lot of damage, and you can run flower guard on main to keep her and samui from being controlled quite so easily.

I did took Wind Main a while ago, since I saw in SWB one wind main with same Raikage, Samui, Darui team, and I did experimented with different setups, but it barely worked practically outside SWB, like in Arena, and I did used and it did helped a bit the debuffer, but it's just that wind is so squishy, shielding is a must basically.

And yea, I do have both Killer B's version, and I still haven't found a way to implement him into the battles since he is squishy as well, kind of.

After GNW I will give it a try with this setup. I know Wind Main can remove buffs, but the fact that she is squishy just puts me off.

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On 2018-03-04 01:59:29Show All Posts
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  • Jori. On 2018-03-04 01:50:32
  • For me, you need to make something with Roshi, he will destroy Shisuis barrier plus he will be immune, and try to get someone like Jonin Minato or go deep in GNW treasure,if you get Kurama you can build the usual earth team with him roshi bee and dispose those teams. other than that, Shisui will be a problem for you atm. he is extremely annoying with other dodge + anbu itachi ninjas !

I have Jonin Minato 38/80 fragments, and as a free to play player you are asking quite the impossible of me at this moment.
And mentioning kurama....lol....only after a year. I only got 4th Ay after struggling with 800-900 scrolls over a period of one year and few months with dedicating spending in Kage Treasure, don't assume I paying player, and I will invest money in this game :D not a chance.

Same with Curse Hidan, I got him with dedicated saved up coupons for a long period of time. I wont get Kurama unless I become dedicated spender in GNW treasurel like in Kage Treasure for ~14 months by collecting every * seal scroll.




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On 2018-03-04 04:49:54Show All Posts
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  • xxMihai On 2018-03-04 04:28:20
  • Haha, sorry man, after I saw your name "IamBatman", couldn't help but notice.

    You are the guy who called me a princess hehehe

Oh, I remember, I am simply fed up with the arena and teams at the super kage level, I just keep going up and down within the field of -4 to -12 points constantly, and it's just absurd, I can't help but to call everyone whatever I want from anger. If I had a spare monitor and enough cash to maybe buy new one, I would definitely try to smash my monitor from what is going on arena.

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On 2018-03-04 05:20:50Show All Posts
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  • xxMihai On 2018-03-04 05:07:58
  • Well you're using Ay 4th Raikage who is not so good now, with skillbreakthrough I heard he will be OP, if you're going on -points it means too many teams counter you. For me yes, I had also trouble with Shisui LM teams and lost 2/4 times against them depending on the player + some teams with very OP(very very rare) ninjas but... if you have good team that not many counter you can even go for rank 1 on server, not just sage of six paths.

Skillbooked**** and yea, he is OP with skillbook, I once saw a very tough match in the Space Time on youtube, by accident, from Dripsha I think, as he was looking at one. Enemy had Kurama Naruto and Kisame monster, and even if he lost with 4th A, 4 A was basically alone for 5 rounds I think, against 3 others, at the end it was I think Minato and Fused Kisame, they finished him, but it was tough.


I have been thinking lately about starting to collect coupons for whenever these books come out. I am not sure if they will be in events of ingots only, I hope not, but regular Konan skillbooks atm. are for ingot recharge if not mistaken, or other Ingot event, but at least her fragments are not that impossible to get, available in the shop thankfully, so there is some chance to get in long term. But I hope there is going to be a even or something where at least 4th A books become available through coupons.


The thing what I want to use A is because I recently got him, you know how it is, you struggle to get something, and at the moment when you get him you want to use him so that it wouldn't feel as a waste, like, you bought something, and you want to use it, you didn't bought that device or whatever to just place it aside or throw away, never to be used again, so call me stubborn. Same thing happened with 3rd Raikage, the GNW treasure came out so * disappointing fast, that you don't have time to enjoy it unlike with Han and Roshi. one and a half or two months, and GNW treasure is out.

I had my enjoyment with 3rd, and then everything went to *. It's like I am unlucky, I didn't bothered to get Han and Roshi, I collected seals and spent in kage treasure to get 4th, then I heard lighting treasure was coming out, started to collect for that...disappointment after disappointment from OG...who ever makes decisions at such stuff.

Another thing I regret was Chyo 10 puppets, I got her pretty late, but she was cheap as well, but at the time I got her, she was useless. She is one of those ninjas that either needs a buff to make a worth out of her, or just never bother to get them. Same with Hashirama and Tobirama, buff them up to catch up to others, or just never bother getting them despite how cheap they are, of course if you want to be economical and can't afford to be collector of premium and super rare ninjas.




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On 2018-03-04 05:38:05Show All Posts
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  • Garv On 2018-03-04 03:57:59
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Alright, I will give it a shot at some point, currently I will try again wind main suggested before, see how it'll go overall.


UPDATE: That wind team *s, the cooldown of the mysteries is just too huge for all of them, not worth it, and I can't use reset mystery if my target is to debuff...the risk is too big. Now I am loosing in arena even against regular roshi, sailor, water and the fat guy. I guess I will try watermain lineup and see what happens.


UPDATE NR2: Water team is squishy af...damage output low...can't even normally survive... It still doesn't help much against fire mirrors running around additionally. It's just too huge of a buff over Shisui, each ninja is protect by something because of how much 0 chakra cost skill ninjas they have and can chain combo easily.


It's like, if I want to make a perfect lightning team, nothing will work because either combo doesn't work, there is no buff, or I can't place ninjas together like I want, or I everyone is super squishy...where these Uchiha ones goes together no matter what, has skills that boosts each other, and has ridiculous evasion, so people who favor Uchiha and all that, it's like heaven to use them...Why can't I have perfect Raikage team with Immunities? for example max immunity for 4th and 3rd Raikage? Oh, so people would say it's too OP? With 3 turn cooldown, cannot be chased, and deals a lot of damage.......now look at what is going on with Shisui, Masked Man, and Itachi....just your casual day, nobody bats an eye...well, except for me.


I understand the meta stuff thing, but it always feels like the lightning users or some ninjas that should have been much stronger are disliked a lot, where ninjas that shouldn't be that strong. are strong. It's just biased imo. I have always played lightning ninja since beginning, only once changed to earth main, wind, and water, never changed to fire because how the character looks...like trans, but that's just me. I always lived with being weak, trying to make up from favorite ninjas that I like in the anime, but still getting kicked around a lot, even if being in top 20. I refused to change classes since I want to have fun with what I choose, but I can't because it feels like there's nothing for lightning user, skills are mostly *, at least Immunity and Anbu are only two skills that are playable, where other characters have a wide variety of choosing skills and has tons of meta ninjas to play with. When lightning treasure meta came out, it still got soon replaced with GNW, no time for fun.


Whenever something comes up for lightning, it's always outplayed by anything, and here is the moment I again mention the fact that the moment 3rd raikage came vs GNW treasure, it's like devs really hate lightning, I mean, they represent the black people, the Cloud Village, so is there maybe racial stuff going on(?) lol, so they released GNW treasure asap and wont release next treasure for like few more months, letting everyone enjoy while those with 3rd A cannot enjoy anything. I might sound like conspirator, but this is just ridiculous and doesn't look like a random coincidence.


Of course now with GNW there is plenty for lightning main, but there was nothing for 3rd Raikage, and I do not have anything from GNW treasure...like, when I can have a chance to shine, I cannot shine. When I do not have the chance to shine, I could shine.


I guess I will just live with being unlucky mofo, cannot win any premium ninja or powerups, always have to go hard way to get something, cannot normally have fun, instead of fun I get stress and disappointment. Stuff I like never works...does it prove that the game is unbalanced and forces constantly things you don't want, which is a bad way to make a game? Or is it just me?




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On 2018-03-07 04:26:05Show All Posts
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  • xandre123 On 2018-03-05 08:24:30

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    Would this work? if they hv mm they can only pick ay 4th or earth main , and either way u will hv still both ays up

This is something I did before I went to lightning main, and this was one of the reasons I changed to lightning main, since like I said, I used earth setup before with both A's.

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On 2018-03-07 04:30:09Show All Posts
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  • chriscross On 2018-03-06 05:03:36
  • I've been using AY the 4th, Samui, Darui and LM in arena forever and have no problem getting six paths...it's OP as hell.

    Switch LM to lighting cloak as it will finish off anyone that might get lucky enough to survive Ay because samui will give you the chakra to use Ay and LM mystery round one.

    Also move Samui to front row middle and LM behind her in position two. You should win 95% of the time unless WM is immune and is using multi clone which CAN be the 5% you lose.


I had a lineup like that at first, but I find it actually to be a bad position, since half of players are in the bottom with Shisui's and Masked Man, etc. and Samui gets more hits in that way than if she was just at the bottom, so I make them hit my A who can leech anyway.
And you don't have to explain why to use that lineup :D I have it right up there shown in the pictures right exact lineup, so I know about why and what. :P




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On 2018-03-07 04:33:36Show All Posts
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  • xxMihai On 2018-03-05 03:11:04
  • Formation Screenshot(7)Formation Screenshot(8)

    I made 2 teams for you that can carry through Six Paths, don't know how well they work vs Shisui LM Immune teams, maybe you need to put Masked Man in there in Samui place, cause Jinpachi is just too good. LM for leech and bonus damage, Fire Main for more Control and Immunity. Good Luck Man

That might work for those who have those ninjas, but personally I don't have them.

Nice recommendation to others, but for me it's a no go. Use the template I gave with the available ninjas :/

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On 2018-03-07 04:34:17Show All Posts
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  • McDonald's On 2018-03-05 07:41:35
  • Is this for arena? You can try the team below to disrupt that team you are having trouble beating with. It lacks debuff clearer though. :(


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Maybe I might try this one later, thanks.

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On 2018-03-07 04:40:14Show All Posts
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  • GenjiGenjuro On 2018-03-05 15:34:42
  • Every team has its weakness, it seems you need to learn a lot my friend. Root of warrior is indeed annoying af, I have serious hate against roots teams since the start of this game when the meta was still LM, Kimimaro, Darui or LM Mifune Darui. I met them countless times in the arena and there is no way you can win against it if you don't remove their immunity. So I was keen on pulling for Han and it didn't dis appoint me for 210 seals, then I went for Roshi because he removes barrier, perfect against team that relies on barrier. I invested on ninjas that can do something significant, someone that can turn the tide of the battle. Blitz teams, like yours are not always solid, it has holes in it, they are very vulnerable, just remove their buffs and barrier and they are out of weapons.


What do I need to learn, tell me? Playing for over a year now, haven't spent a dime in the game... I am telling here all the time to those who insist on ignoring what I write and post ninjas that I do not have, and then tell me how I do not know stuff. I am aware of the ninjas I need in order to counter, but I do not have them, and I am not willing to pull Han or Roshi anymore, or any ninjas from older treasure, I only asked if anyone can make up something from what I got, the best of what I offer, not the best imagination you can come up with. If you can't make anything up from what I got, then don't bother writing and lecturing me about how I need to pull ninjas I do not have and clearly not even focusing on getting them, just tell me that "there's nothing I can help you with, since you need this and this ninjas, but you don't have them, and nothing from this works imo".

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On 2018-03-07 04:41:53Show All Posts
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2018-03-05 16:56:15
  • I know you don't have these ninjas completely.

    But I'm 77k and I was able to beat Shisui, Itachi (Anbu) Masked Man, Fire Main and LM variants with Roshi, Sailor Sakura, Han, Water Main against people who were about 10k - 20k power above me.

    At least in space time anyways.

    Han can bait out dodges easily since he is in position 1. So it wasn't too much of an issue.

    But if you can pull off something a bit similar with someone like Asuma Windblade then run Wind Main with the 4th mystery that gets rid of shields/buffs with something that can overwrite barriers. You'll probably have an easier time.

Yea, if I had those, I wouldn't be here asking :/ but thanks, maybe for others this will help.

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