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[ Suggestions ] Azure Fang vs Scarlet blaze, something doesn't work right

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On 2018-01-23 18:23:07Show All Posts
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In truth i too consider scarlet blaze set of talents too strong considering the ninja lineup available. Is too easy for sb to be able to create a team and good synergies and he substantially fails only against full immune teams, teams that cannot be run with azure fang with any hopes to be competitive, unless we talk about naruto kurama or 4-6 tails, ninjas that are not at all easy to gain and that as pointed out by garv work better with other mains and that are not of water attribute.

Imho azure fang should get a talent like 'status adaptment' that let her use mystery even if chaosed or immobilized. Something like: if azure fang is under sleep, chaos or immobile she can still cast a mystery but her hp are halved. For that round she becomes immune to new debuffs.

She can still be interrupted but at least is able to do her work and at a big cost.




This post was last edited by Zelgadis~ on 2018-01-23 18:41:21.
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On 2018-01-24 17:28:49Show All Posts
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  • Shryke On 2018-01-23 20:53:00
  • There is no water ninja at the same level of itachi and shisui. That's why you are probably losing. But the real worth of AF is healing and chaos'ing, not water buffing.


    Since you have thrown in itachi susanoo, let me tell you that a poison/chaos based team, with edo hashirama, sage AF, SB kurenai + another healer (i.e tsunade hokage) could easily beat the Uchiha fire meta. It's just slower in SWB, so people don't see a reason to delay their turn 1 spike to get higher winning spree in less time.

If we talk about the anime i don't see why tobirama should be weaker than itachi or why mei should be weaker than shisui, the point is they made them weaker and unable to get a good synergy together and together with azure fang.


P.S. The team you talk about doesn't meet the requirements garv asked since edo hashirama and kurenai aren't water ninjas. Moreover, even if the team is able to win (maybe, and i am not even that sure, since there's no ninja that's able to proc the 10 combo to let trigger the high chases if not hashirama mystery and hashirama mystery can be easily interrupted by the enemy and if hits shisui you get no water style water trumphet and no king of hell so no hashirama chase neither + to let hashirama heal and remove debuffs on azure fang azure fang is compelled to run nature energy gathering and so not healing tips or neurotoxin this means she is compelled to run shark bomb, since reg. healing jutsu doesn't get boosted by nature energy gathering boost ) it still requires the hardest to get ninja currently + a whale only ninja (hokage tsunade) while itachi susano'o currently is way easier to gain and can be easily swapped with the free itachi anbu to get almost the same outcome and shisui can be bought in events with 15k coupons.


EDIT: you are right saying the real strenght of AF currently are healing and chaosing, but the point of Garv is exactly that: both of those points of strenght are denied exactly by the only main that should be weak to them.




This post was last edited by Zelgadis~ on 2018-01-24 17:43:37.
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On 2018-01-30 18:07:40Show All Posts
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  • JustSaying On 2018-01-30 06:45:54
  • ^You can win against most fire teams using sailor sakura and water main. Tell me how many f2p or medium spender can beat sailor sakura wm han and roshi teams .Add skill broken kurunei and you got a good team.Only problem you have is against a whale running susano itachi ,mm and shisui. They are not going to make countering whale teams that easy.If it was easy to counter, people wouldn't buy those premium ninja. lol


A lot.

The problem is that a ton of people got shisui out of the wheels and now owns itachi anbu for free and is not that hard for a f2p to buy masked man. Your sb team is ready for 10k coupons.

Kushimaru, jinpachi, edo sasori seems to me quite easy to gain, fuguki blitz with roshi too. You could say they aren't sb teams but are teams that own with ease han roshi sailor sakura and, to tell the truth, they could be used also with sb.

So how could the usual owner of han roshi sailor team run it in swb or matsuri if have the legitimate fear that every f2p mb or af can own him with ease?

Personally speaking with han roshi i lost once against a fuguki blitz with 25k less power and against a kushimaru team with 10k less power and in both cases by owning initiative.

P.S. you are right about the fact whale ninjas should have some kind of upper hand. The point is that the common logic would say that AF + the two most expensive water ninja available should be able to beat the same SB + the two strongest fire ninja available. Do you think hokage tsunade, kisame samehada + a 4th ninja of your choice can beat itachi susano'o, shisui, sb + a 4th ninja of your choice at comparable power if the sb owns initiative?




This post was last edited by Zelgadis~ on 2018-01-30 18:28:24.
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On 2018-02-02 17:09:44Show All Posts
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  • Garv On 2018-01-30 23:03:40
  • shisui, masked man, minato teams aren't that unlikely to be meet just now and as zelgadis pointed out itachi anbu now can easily take the place of itachi susano'o.

    anyways, usually, if you meet a SB in a 100k+ field, that sb runs those teams and that's what i'm facing currently.

+1.

The issue is not little and oasis, by choosing to put those ninjas on display so often makes it even worse, overall because they continue to not give us the tools to counter them (normal itachi, normal kisame, yamato and tsunade sannin war breaktroughs).

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