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[ PVP ] Kushimaru, is he bit op?

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On 2018-01-13 11:51:44Show All Posts
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  • Azrielle On 2018-01-11 08:55:20
  • Good thing you dropped the Sailor/Roshi/Han team. Kurenai, indeed, does way much better overall. The former team is literally a free food for Roshi/Fuguki team, no other way around it, they utterly decimate the one's so-called immortal/cancer team.

    As for the Ay cloud team, it depends. If it's SWB, then truly Roshi/Fuguki cannot breakthrough those shields, BUT if both of them survives through round 3, the enemy should start to worry. Ay cloud team of the same, or at most >2k power than me can still lose if an earth main is too clumsy to get himself combo'ed by Fuguki, surely chaos'ed and unable to cleanse the massive DoT. If either of them dies within 2 rounds, it's almost a sure loss for me, unless Roshi does his miracles. Now with arena, it also depends if the enemy is smart enough to complete his 2x team standard attack. Otherwise, the enemy can only watch his ninjas melt away by poison-burn. The Roshi/Fuguki team's very weakness is immunity. I lost to Fire main's immune shield almost 70% of the time while climbing to six path. The Mabui/Tenten/Mei team can do some damage, but if one knows what he's doing, even that team will seem like a thing of the past. As soon as main azure finishes standard, unleash Fuguki's combo on Mabui to carry the chaos over to the next round. Next round, Roshi will surely be the first to move, so chaos the enemy azure to ensure no cleansing of the precious poison-burn, BUT be careful not to kill the azure clone, as it will give Mei enough chakra to ignite the entire team, rendering healing useless (unless you're faster than Mei). I've beaten some fire main with susano'o itachi, all because they weren't using the immunity shield, otherwise Roshi/Fuguki would be the ones biting the dust.
    So yeah, one of the weakness of my current lineup are the immunity teams. Funny enough, after several of us posted the Roshi/Fuguki lineups, there have been more of them in arena lately, making it impossible for Han/Roshi/Sailor teams to climb up.

who are you using as your 4th ninja in the fuguki/roshi lineup? and what talents are you using with azure fang?

I'm just curious.

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On 2018-01-14 08:42:08Show All Posts
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  • Mass On 2018-01-13 23:22:52
  • What the game really needs its a heavy nerf to either water main or the heals over all when the new summoning pets in battle feature gets implemented it will be really annoying, besides just healing everything and just poison tai till the other oponent dies its not skill and its not playing the game it just abusing the game.

in arena healings are so nerfed is like they don't exist at all.

triple healing lineups aren't at all viable in arena, not even if you use hokage tsunade and healing tips.





This post was last edited by Garv on 2018-01-14 08:43:00.
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On 2018-01-15 10:15:30Show All Posts
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  • Dipshit On 2018-01-14 11:54:49
  • Well that in Arena . other fight is not . but well water main really easy to kill . i just use ignite to kill that team . with no immobile or interupt ninjas (mostly can beat higher power than me )

I suppose the people you meet heavily misplay or use subpar teams.




This post was last edited by Garv on 2018-01-15 10:26:25.
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On 2018-01-15 10:25:29Show All Posts
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  • Mass On 2018-01-14 22:47:50
  • Sure i dont doubt theres ppl that actually run decent teams as water main and its just not plain 3 healers with roshi, but my point its the game its so over satured of water bs team it sure kills the mood for a lot of ppl, i myself only have problems with water teams if they are quicker than me or more powerfull than me but theres always that person or situation that is just plain unfair to those teams and u cant deny that. i heavily dislike how you can brake the game and pretty much ignore the whole fight by just having 3 healers, even as a heavy cc team u cant control all of them and one will debuff the other and they are free again and back to full health, when the katsuyu in battle summon gets added they will have another free heal and debuff, tell me its that really fair?

Currently heavy healing teams don't work at all at higher power.

Edo deidara lineups and MB hidden mist teams hard counter them.

You won't meet any triple healing+poison tai related teams with azure fang over 90k power fields.






This post was last edited by Garv on 2018-01-15 10:27:47.
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On 2018-01-16 02:39:23Show All Posts
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  • Dipshit On 2018-01-15 21:11:48
  • Seem they do mistake everytime right? and They use the common meta's ( Roshi Sailor Sage naruto / Minato / Mei / Fuguki , Mei Tenten , Bee Sailor , Ao mei chojuro , Jigokudo sailor roshi , kurenai Sailor Roshi , Etc)

Skewering + experimental ninjutsu to chaos Kushimaro or Jinpachi with neurotoxin every round. You are using MB, you can't do anything to counter that, even if you use acupuncture mystery AF self heals with standard attack.

If you use Edo Sasori the enemy azure fang just needs to use a ninja with paralysis in the chase (like darui or bee sst or ay 3rd) to make last that chaos (since paralysis is the first thing that gets removed by a debuff removal effect like edo sasori's), or if the enemy azure fang uses a ninja with acupuncture in the chase they just need to start a combo once every two rounds on your kushimaro and on your jinpachi to make the team useless, if that ninja is yagura you also give AF immunity thanks to your root of warrior.

The point is that you, like many others, continue to think azure fang is good only as a full healer because you meet her only in that version.








This post was last edited by Garv on 2018-01-16 03:02:02.
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On 2018-01-16 22:12:56Show All Posts
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  • Dipshit On 2018-01-16 05:26:10
  • I dont know what make u thinking that im using MB . well probably u think that the only way to beat water , its not . im using Earth main with jinpachi/sailor edo deidara edo sasori/jigokudo . i always change it sometime so that why i put both ninja's . its boring if just deidara do the thing . or sometime i use burst team minato iruka asuma , i did kill someone roshi with 130k on R1 and im only 90k but well i lose cuz the gap to high (burst team)

because the thread is about Kushimaru, so i took for granted, since you talk about easily beating multiple healer azure fang lineups that you run him with MB because is the only meta that can achieve that with Kushimaru. If you are wholly off-topic is not my fault.

Anyways, and i'm going OT to follow you, since we are talking about a ninja - Edo Deidara - that costs around 15-20k coupons if you straight buy it when available then i just tell you another ninja that costs the same quantity of coupons that shut down completely the meta you are running : 3rd hokage.

3rd hokage dies, selects deidara as target, kill it and remove the body from the field, so can't be resurrected.

Obviously Hiruzen can be used together with mei and azure fang with ease.

Other two lineups that definitely own that meta with azure fang on comparable power are:


1) Minato Hokage, Gaara (normal), Bee sst (100% sure victory on par power if you don't make mistakes). Talents 32322, summon monkey king.

2) Fuguki, Mei/Yagura, Roshi. You just need to not run a full healing azure fang and no poison tai and to use wisely Fuguki mystery. For example those talents: 42213, summon: monkey king.




This post was last edited by Garv on 2018-01-18 00:54:20.
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On 2018-01-16 22:47:55Show All Posts
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  • smaddeus On 2018-01-16 04:11:10
  • You all people are playing a different game or something...sure, too squishy, but he is OP when it comes to players with higher ini, and even if he is squishy he still c*e his mystery basically every round, imo that's broken af.

    In my server people with higher ini use him, and with my Omoi/Samui/3rd A, and Earth Main, I can't do *, I have to get really lucky to start combo on him in first round, and not to mention that with some fire mains he can be immune as well, so even if combo'ed on first round he is still alive and can easily disable core ninjas in second round and let the rest take out the other irrelevant ones so that he can keep disabling two ninjas constantly. I am not sure how his mystery works, but three rounds in a row he only disabled my 3rd A and Main, is the second ninja chosen randomly? since what kind of a coincidence it is that these two ninjas were constantly disabled every round leaving me with two workable ninjas? There's literally nothing I can do whenever I see Kushimaru in enemy team, I am dead always.

    Feels like I am playing Naruto Online Extreme Difficulty edition or something, since this game dislikes me a lot.

try to use the same team with azure fang, you'll get better outcomes against that specific kushimaru team

Talents: 42143, that way you can heal your ay and you can start ay combo + immobile the enemy kushimaru in round 1 with azure fang mystery. Summon: monkey king.

distribution:

x x x

AF Samui Ay

Omoi x x

The main issue of Ay 3rd meta is that you can select a specific enemy only once every 3 rounds with CF (darui over omoi solves a bit this issue), with Azure Fang this issue is solved and is also easier to reach 100 chakra (you are able to do it very likely even in round 1 with omoi clones defeat). What changes if your average damage, that obviously will be slightly lower in round 1, but in the end doesn't matter much against the team you are facing.




This post was last edited by Garv on 2018-01-18 03:25:34.
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