you had on last week

They had a refine rebate last christmas event. They know people did that event, so, why would they add another refine event knowing a lot of complaints would arise?
Just save your refine runes, that would be better for all than to ask for an event that many would complain about.
You can say it's not your fault that the people did the welfare refine event, but that's not how being "considerate" works.
In the end, Oasis must do something for the benefit of many, that's why they try to avoid consecutive events of the same mechanics.

I highly doubt people would complain about getting the typical refine rebate that gives out wishing credits that we normally see vs. the Christmas refine rebate that gave out items that has nothing to do with refining. Wishing credits is worth more than a weeks worth of myboku gifts to the majority of people.

To OP, because of that Christmas events, the typical event order we normally see is messed up. Same thing happened during the anniversary events back in July. It seems like the we have to wait until near the end of January/start of February to see if Oasis is putting the order back to normal since the upcoming week has one event (cave key rebate) is typically one week ahead and one event (recruitment feedback) missing due to having a seal scroll rebate this week.

The point is, we had a refine rebate event in the form of 7 Days of Welfare event. People who did that event would probably complain why another refine rebate would come soon. If you have seen Daisuke's response to another thread, he very well stated why we won't have another refine rebate anytime soon. It's too late to say anything about 7 days of welfare since it's done, people did it, and Oasis tries not to add another refine rebate knowing many of their players used their refine runes.

Event order isn't messed up. Try to read Daisuke's response to another "refine rebate" thread and they intended not to bring the typical rebate event as we had 7 days of welfare the other week.

When I mean "messed up", what I meant to say that the typical events we normally see in the event cycle is not 100%, with this week not have the limited refinement + refinement rebate and the upcoming week not having recruitment feedback and having the cave key rebate pushed up. For those who played for quite sometime, most likely, they figured out the pattern in when events are released and are able to predict when the events are coming and save and plan according. Not only do these holiday events mess up the sequence of the events but what is typically in the events. It usually takes a full month to be able to predictable track the events again.

Yes I read Daisuke's response and would suspect that the would happen since it happened in the past. Back in April or May, they introduced the refinement rebate without limited refinement. This meant players had to wait an extra month before those two were released together.

People complain anyway didnt they? And it was christmas. People would expect it to be extra events, not cancel each other out. Many people who didnt do the christmas, they were waiting for normal rebate cus of wish credits. Many people have enough to do both. Its more reasonable to have both for more choices. The expectation would be the event cycle continues as normal and we would have a rebate after christmas.

Assumptions don't necessarily make logical conclusions. The past responses have more sensible arguments than your what-ifs.
We refuse to acknowledge your opinion. However, you're entitled to it.

I didn't do the Christmas refine rebate because it didn't give extra wish credits. I'm kind of satisfied that we don't have the normal rebate because I would have saved up all 500 for the full rebate when they put it in the future. However I agree with Danzo that it messed up the cycle a little bit , because I'm one of those players he talked about who predict the cycle and make plans how and when to spend their resources. Btw I saw that the current cave key rebate is for 2 weeks so that fixes the cycle a little bit.

I take it you're in the stage of the game where you don't really need the rewards stated in the recent 7 welfare's event?
I mustn't have mentioned that I'm in a server which is less than 3 months old, and the rewards helped me power up.
I had enough to complete the welfare's max reward of 200 refinements, so I thought it was better than if I did the
200+ typical refine rebate event, which I'm not even sure if I'd succeed more than twice.. Many of us know it's not worth the effort if
you can only upgrade a refinement level once, that's just awful.. So, yeah the welfare rewards did help me, powered up a couple hundreds.

Who’s we? Assumptions are based on logic. It was a christmas event. It would be more reasonable to make an extra event than an event to replace the monthly rebate.

Who’s we? Assumptions are based on logic. It was a christmas event. You want to talk about the past? In the past, we get refine rebate everything, is that not a sensible plAce to make assumptions? What are u basing your “we already have this new one so no old rebate” on?

My server is 3 months old too. I'm willing to sacrifice some power in the name of leveling my refines up faster ( currently at lvl 5-6 ). Because you need ton of those med refines to reach advanced refines and those extra wish credits help a lot + the higher the level the more power it gives between levels + regular rebate gives advanced refines + purification breakthrough pill which in the long run is way more useful than the welfare rewards.

Well, I was speaking about my personal experience. My server is relatively new, and I was trying to catch up with the whales in both ranked arena and SWB.
Had my move 1 ninja at max level 9 refine, lowest is 6. Now, tell me, what are the odds that my 200ish refine runes (mostly advanced at that, and only 30 mediums)
to advance me through 2 levels? My other ninjas are at 5 and 6, and I don't need to focus on them as it is a healing-based team. Comments like yours really just repeat
a previous cycle of arguments just cause some people fail to look at the details of an issue.
I noticed my initiative wasn't much of a hindrance, so I went on and did arena and it was fine.

So how does a 30 medium refine and 170ish advanced refine on a level 9-refined gear do make a lot of difference for me?
So I went on for power. Didn't regret it at all.

The problem with some people is they keep insisting on things (based on subjective cues at that, and funny enough, talks about logic.. smh) that they wish to happen despite being given a clarification by the moderator.
We have our own reasons for doing the things we do. But when faced with a predicament that's clearly beyond anyone's control, we should just move on and accept that not all the things will ever go our way. Had the refine rebate came this week, heck, I'd get a bit upset but I'm not gonna keep b****ing about some past event on these fora.

Hi, i just want to say something, im asuming you are not a new player you've seen the other refine rebates more than once right? if you knowing the rewards that event gives still decide the 7 day welfare is more worth it im totally okay with that but what gives you the right to complain if the refine rebate comes next week ? (just an example) they didn't put a gun in your head and told you (USE YOUR RUNES HERE) it was your choice after all so i dont think you have the right to complain about it (not like they care for people that complains).

What i think happened is: since last refine event got delayed also im guessing they moved it maybe from the first week in the month to the 2nd or 3rd?

If we go by your logic about complaints, then what gives these people the right to complain about a week of no refine rebate? It's not like Oasis points a gun on their heads saying "don't participate in the 7 days of welfare event". They could have, but they didn't, cause they thought refine rebate proceeds that week, as what most of us have thought. Now you're talking about why would people complain about a consecutive wave of events similar to refine rebates? Can't you tell why would people get upset? They created the 7 days of welfare event, it was there and people did it. Now the moderator has clarified why we don't have a refine rebate event, that is, because we had a similar one in the form of 7 days of welfare, and they've thought about the benefit of more players, so they omitted the following week's refine rebate thinking it would help more people to start saving up again, and to help those who could save up more to reach the max reward point. People who did not participate in the 7 days of welfare surely still has their refine runes. What gives you the right to complain when you have not lost anything?? Don't even tell me shizz about winning in sage or arena coz boo-hoo, you could have done your refines, such a fairy tale. Get a grip. There were even people who were glad coz they had the time to save up some more and to get a better chance at upgrading several refine levels. Instead of just crying, try to keep saving your runes and wait for the rebate, that is ascertained by the moderator. Question, have you saved 500 runes in total to get the max rewards? Are your refine levels a bit low that you're certain wish credits would have guaranteed multiple refinement success? If the former questions aren't relevant to you, then what gives you the right to cry?

Words are double-edged. Words are mirrors. Pleasant words get pleasant feedback, otherwise nein.

I suppose you weren't playing when Aristaeus mess up happened.

Was the ONLY moment where Oasis actually made some changes in favour of f2p/low cashers and no, wasn't at all a pleasant time if you want to know.

Allyriane..dont know what made you like that event unless all your refines are at level 9 and you just have to move it to level 10.. Normal f2ps plan hard for their refines and want to do bulk jumps like level 6 to 9 and so on, and for that purpose they save up and wait for the REAL refine rebate. The basic premise is initative is a highly rated attribute compared to others. And for even a level freezing f2p it takes 2 months to reach the set target of 500, the lucky ones might get it in a month if you are solely focusing on that. Yes, the christmas event max was 200 refines(much lesser), but it gives less refinement leveling up opportunities compared to normal event but gives other power up goodies, but the sole focus of many players is moreintiative with least refines, and this event fails at that. Considering the two months needed to save up and ending up knowing that you have to wait a month more is not really cheerful news.( as far as i know no one including p2w in my server went for that event, because you get goodies but not what you want, the bonus wish credits. As far as I know, The only people who went for that are spenders and that too in other servers). Since they have been deprived of their preferrred monthly rebate, its the basic right of a player to give their feedback. We understand that there was a rebate, but i could say more than half of the community would have wanted the other rebate over this and its their right to give their feedback. You too have your right to opinion, and its acceptable that you have made a valuable point, but lot of people feel otherwise and they would like to express that. You could count the number of support you have received for your opinion and know what the majority of community is thinking.

then what gives these people the right to complain about a week of no refine rebate?

No one is complaining in here, even the autor of the post is just asking what happened to refine rebate because he thought it was supossed to be this week

Now you're talking about why would people complain about a consecutive wave of events similar to refine rebates?

UM i didn't say anything like that but wathever

Can't you tell why would people get upset? They created the 7 days of welfare event, it was there and people did it

the same logic would also apply to the seals scroll rebates there are two of them and we got one last week, now tell me would it be okay of tomorrow you discover they will skip the other rebate (which is better) for who knows how long? would the people that used their seal scrolls complain because they don't have enough seals to do the next rebate? NO if you don't have enough you skip it (at least thats what i do) unless you are a whale and plan to waste your ingots in seals/runes or unless you somehow manage to farm 500 runes or 300 seals in 1 month why would you complain? again it was your choice to use it on the first place, and just because that event is there does not mean you have to do it

Now the moderator has clarified why we don't have a refine rebate event, that is, because we had a similar one in the form of 7 days of welfare, and they've thought about the benefit of more players, so they omitted the following week's refine rebate thinking it would help more people to start saving up again

Again i didn't say anything about this but if its true it will look more to me like a punishment to these players who didn't to use their resources in that event

People who did not participate in the 7 days of welfare surely still has their refine runes. What gives you the right to complain when you have not lost anything??

UMM nope not complaining unlike you i can't farm 500 runes in 1 month so it doesn't really matter to me, if i don't get to do the rebate this month i migh be able to do 2 in a row so no point in complaining about this, can't say it wouldn't be better if we got it this week but still.

Don't even tell me shizz about winning in sage or arena coz boo-hoo, you could have done your refines, such a fairy tale. Get a grip.

Again i didnt say anything about this are you sure you confused me with someone else?

There were even people who were glad coz they had the time to save up some more and to get a better chance at upgrading several refine levels

There is also people like me and the autor of the thread that would rather have the refine event this week, so whats the point?

Instead of just crying, try to keep saving your runes and wait for the rebate

Idk what to say at this point, read my reply again

Question, have you saved 500 runes in total to get the max rewards?

Yup, i skipped last one because i see the purification pills + adv runes more worth it than the 7day welfare rewards

Are your refine levels a bit low that you're certain wish credits would have guaranteed multiple refinement success?

I don't understand the point of this question

If the former questions aren't relevant to you, then what gives you the right to cry?

BTW no need to be toxic about this, i didn't reply to you in a toxic way did i?

Stop complaining. If you want to use your refines then go ahead. Not everybody wants a refine event back to back.

Sure. Got no more time to spare to people who just replies impulsively without reading the previous comments properly.
Hope this thread just gets closed as the OP's question has already been clarified by Daiske.