posted here for future reference.

P.S. first impression for the water teams isn't good at all ICEx, sorry if i tell you.

Why so ? I know they are cancer-ish but they are strong teams

best team suggestions ive seen so far, and they are for a common, my man tears will spread soon

Who delivers chaos in the 1st lineup?

Neurotoxin chaoses somebody only as a consequence of a critical hit, but the 3 chases main starts aren't guaranteed crits (only the 3rd chase, the knockdown to highfloat one, has a guaranteed crit, the others don't own it) and Azure Fang don't run neither the 1st standard attack nor Shark Bomb, so the chance to actually deliver 1 critical hit is very low even in arena where there's no critical secondary stat, while outside it, if you are facing somebody higher power than you that owns higher critical secondary stat than you means to be granted to never deliver a critical...

Means you are actually hoping Kurenai standard attack starts a combo... because in round 1,3 and 4 you have no other way to be sure to chaos somebody.

If you want to know what doesn't work in 2nd lineup, call me in game.

You do understand no teams are perfect, of course none is guaranteed critical hit but 3 chases with neurotoxin has a very high chance of causing chaos, nevertheless I did mention you can replace neurotoxin per preference.

Fuguki is mostly a way to trigger roshi with water main, S sakura and roshi. So his best lineup is your number 2... but the dispositon is SO wrong. Fuguki is a move 2 or you will lose the mystery fight in turn 2 and probably the game. Also a true F2P lineup (because he is worthless for p2ps) is with chakra scalpel chase and either purple or golden monkey as summon... not with KoH. He alone does at least 8 x 4 = 32 combos, more than enough to trigger him. This way you will have 1 sure chaos each turn.

Give me back achroma's team suggestions... or at least, tobei's or jori's.

Can you post for lightning main as well ?

I'll call you in game to explain.

@Shyrke: an high combo hit doesn't actually roll every single hit on the critical/control purposes.

When you trigger Water Style - Water Trumphet or King of Hell you don't actually get 10 different rolls to Critical for the 1st one and 9 rolls for the 2nd one. You simply get 1 roll per target (so in the case of Water Style - Water Trumphet for the critical hit purposes you just get 2 rolls and in King of Hell case 3 rolls).

What actually happens when you use Water Style - Water Trumphet is that you get 2 rolls for damage/combo/critical/control then, the total damage gets divided by 5 and gets showed as 5 different hits just for the purpose of reaching 10 more total combos to trigger an eventual 20+ combo chase.

So when you crit once with it you get 5 crits displayed on the target (for king of hell 3). You will never have 1 single hit that crits among the 5 combos that happen on a single target. Or 5 crits or 0 crits.

I wanted to have some variety with the positioning in the team suggestions, I did say you c*e Roshi move 1 in the description didn't I ?

but yes you are right I forgot about f2p options with that team, I edited and wrote that also now

funny thing is...I could actually run team #2 :D

Nice f2p friendly teams for a pretty strong common ninja.

Just tested the last wind main team in arena, Extremely op against most meta teams. Can even beat ay teams and tanky enough to survive well into round 4 with 60-75% health total against immune sword teams.

One more thing I should add is kurenai can't chase in this team, she has to chase on her own by triggering it with her own standard attack knockdown or roshi mystery. This lessens the effectiveness of this team a bit as you can disable a healer or someone dangerous like kushimaru on round 1 after they do standard they will be disabled on round 2 also however that is not the case as kurenai can't trigger her chase from fugukis mystery. Still a great team though.

Yeah that is true she needs to chase from Roshi mystery, it's pretty hard to fit her into Fuguki although you probably could mess with the summons and chases to achieve that.

Glad you liked it

Just use purple / golden toad. Chasing repulse to knockdown will make her chase all autos and mysteries in that team.

I have probably explained myself badly. The chaos would come from wm's chakra scalpel + neorotoxin. Since in arena all stats are weird, i prefer to have 1 certain chaos than 5 potential ones. Also, my suggestions was to make that team cheaper: since most of those lineups are for f2p, monkey king /purple monkey is far more easily obtained than KoH.

Water main, Sailor sakura, Kabuto and Fuguki is good too

I'm running Et Fuguki, Et Nagato, ET Pakura, and Water Main.

I can't agree with this statement. Fuguki works really well round 1, especially if you run Neurotoxin with chakra dissection blade. Putting Fuguki in position 1 guarantees a round 1 mystery off of 1 hit. Then you have a possible 2nd or 3rd to attack Fuguki, which c*so give you a round 2 mystery with Fuguki and again chaos something to interrupt.

Pakura is wasted in that team, an extra standard attack for Nagato is hardly worth a whole slot unless you don't have immobile or chaos in your talent set otherwise I think pakura is best used with a fire main and 2 wind ninjas and pakura to fully utilize her passive because her mystery is locked until round 3.