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On 2017-12-28 23:24:04Show All Posts
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posted here for future reference.


P.S. first impression for the water teams isn't good at all ICEx, sorry if i tell you.








This post was last edited by Garv on 2017-12-28 23:42:50.
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On 2017-12-29 01:23:36Show All Posts
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  • ICExx On 2017-12-28 23:52:27
  • Why so ? I know they are cancer-ish but they are strong teams

Who delivers chaos in the 1st lineup?

Neurotoxin chaoses somebody only as a consequence of a critical hit, but the 3 chases main starts aren't guaranteed crits (only the 3rd chase, the knockdown to highfloat one, has a guaranteed crit, the others don't own it) and Azure Fang don't run neither the 1st standard attack nor Shark Bomb, so the chance to actually deliver 1 critical hit is very low even in arena where there's no critical secondary stat, while outside it, if you are facing somebody higher power than you that owns higher critical secondary stat than you means to be granted to never deliver a critical...

Means you are actually hoping Kurenai standard attack starts a combo... because in round 1,3 and 4 you have no other way to be sure to chaos somebody.

If you want to know what doesn't work in 2nd lineup, call me in game.









This post was last edited by Garv on 2017-12-29 01:32:54.
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On 2017-12-29 04:56:27Show All Posts
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  • ICExx On 2017-12-29 02:18:39
  • You do understand no teams are perfect, of course none is guaranteed critical hit but 3 chases with neurotoxin has a very high chance of causing chaos, nevertheless I did mention you can replace neurotoxin per preference.

I'll call you in game to explain.


@Shyrke: an high combo hit doesn't actually roll every single hit on the critical/control purposes.

When you trigger Water Style - Water Trumphet or King of Hell you don't actually get 10 different rolls to Critical for the 1st one and 9 rolls for the 2nd one. You simply get 1 roll per target (so in the case of Water Style - Water Trumphet for the critical hit purposes you just get 2 rolls and in King of Hell case 3 rolls).

What actually happens when you use Water Style - Water Trumphet is that you get 2 rolls for damage/combo/critical/control then, the total damage gets divided by 5 and gets showed as 5 different hits just for the purpose of reaching 10 more total combos to trigger an eventual 20+ combo chase.

So when you crit once with it you get 5 crits displayed on the target (for king of hell 3). You will never have 1 single hit that crits among the 5 combos that happen on a single target. Or 5 crits or 0 crits.





This post was last edited by Garv on 2017-12-29 05:08:15.
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On 2018-01-01 08:39:23Show All Posts
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  • 666Pyro666 On 2018-01-01 02:47:20
  • Line up number 2 is beating immortal Roshi,Han Sailor Sakura and water main, it also can beat teams with Minato/jonin or hokage. Ofc Fuguki is place 2 not 1. This line up gave me semi final of space time vs players with 5-10k more power and it works pretty well vs teams that don t have big attack/nin buffs.

I have no idea about what kind of Hokage Minato lineups you have faced so far if you really think so.

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