While 60 is the commonly stated number for a rare, its actually more like something between 60 and 70. Thus your third rare should come before 210. If you dont get it by then, then you should start to worry a little.

For my experience and youtube videos from other people i can say rares are fixed at 70 Seal scrolls in GNW but in all other treasures they are fixed at 60, so you need to use 210 scrolls to get 3 rares in GNW treasure.

Why not wait Seals Rebate? it will benefit u more .

Well rebate is really a good way really but never actually bothered me since getting seal scrolls are not a main priority for me.

Just abit Shock that all youtube video i watch was fix 60 when they all got their rares LOL

it's something like the 1st draw after 6 draw by ten you do, so if you don't use free draws between draw by tens are actually every 7 draw by ten unless you are lucky and you get random lucky rolls.

I got my first rare at exactly 70 ss on the first date. NOT included free draw first day.

So there you go.

70 + 70 = 140 therefore 2 rares.

However, the range rare draw is probably the same as Kage. I need someone else to confirm if you get first rare at 50 or 60.

I still find it funny when people start counting pulls then think at 60 they'll get a guaranteed rare, ya know one thing...

It's a chance, and you're gambling ur chance, sure the % is high, but you still might not get a rare, when do people understand that...i will never know.

They seem to be at 70 for this treasure, rarely lower.

And if I may, out of pure curiosity, ask who the two rares were?

Every single draw has a chance to grant you a rare, but there's an hidden counter that grants you a sure rare on the following draw by ten you do if you drew in it 60 times before. So, no, is not that way. Every 7 draw by ten you do is sure that you get a rare.

I watched a video of someone pulling fire Edo Hashi and the rares seemed to be after 60 and then 70. That pattern repeated until I saw every rare pull and then I jumped forward to the SR pulls lol.