Honestly I froze my level on 1 character. Don't even bother with low level Matsuri cause odds are you'll be thrown in with people who are level 90+

I set a goal for myself. Don't hit 40 til 10k Power (was 2k away and said screw it). Currently level 41 (cause I still need to upgrade star level of main) and I'd like to hit 15k by 50. But I think the biggest advantage to freezing your level is the seal scrolls you will acquire. Cause you are not wanting to go spend them in Seal Treasure (or Sage/Pain treasures) and I have acquired roughly 75 Seal Scrolls with the intent of having enough to get 3rd Raikage, Omoi, Samui.

This also gives you a chance to avoid being plundered obviously which will let you acquire power a lot easier. I'd personally recommend level 40 to attempt to stay there as long as possible. Mostly so you can focus solely on your refines to at least get them all to level 6. Then work on your Battle Armor when that unlocks. Also by staying low level you'll acquire a lot of items you can't use such as Refines, Battle Armor materials you may obtain from Monthly, or even Cave Keys. I have over 300 cave keys I still can't use on that account (Thank god Myoboku Trial lol)

Don't rush yourself and set goals and take your time meeting those goals because you will have a huge boost in power when you can start using all your materials you'll gain a huge power boost. And if you wait for rebates you'll get even more out of it.

you are missing some SA stuff by stopping at 40

freezing your lvl also gives you the advantage on the Sage World Battlefield if you're lvl let's 80 with around 70k bp no one can compete against you so you're sure to get 48 advanced refines per week ..

Well if you want to freez youre lvl you should do it at lvl 50 if i remember correctly thats when you unlock summons (correct me on that if im wrong its been a while) thats gonna help you to increase youre power also

hmm is SWB connected to level? u just click some random dudes then you start fighting.. what i mean is level does not matter on SWB as long as you have high BP. Unlike matsuri which "slightly" affect it for example you are level 80 with 10k vs level 80 with 70k. maybe the only reason to level freeze is to ensure that gap between their BP and level is not to wide

hmm i see.. but what about at level 70 (so that u get that free pull) or level 80 (so that all mysteries are available now)?

Sage world is gonna be harder at 70 if i remember correctly sage world lvl gaps are 15

Sorry for dropping in.

I just reach 80 and my BP is 46k. I'm top at my server but i'm wondering is it low or normal? And should i freeze my level?

u will get advantage in cross server event like SWB (the top reason why people does freeze their level) and fighting matsuri.

u will lost many free stuff in server event though , like coins from ninetails, reward from doing daily activity and weekly mission (it will be deleted though when 4.0 patch come), weekly event cycle which require u to claim dailty activity to get the reward, eg. sakura blessing event, balloon, etc. U will be a weakling in ur server but will be a king in swb :). being first place in swb ranking can give u 15 advance refine rune, seal scroll as extra reward.

Your choice :)

yep..it matters..level matters in SWB...i was wondering why most people weren't mentioning SWB because its the most important reason for level freezing... advanced refines is one of the hardest things to find in the game as they rarely come in events and pretty costly...Rank 1 in SWB gives you 16 advanced refines that's a huge number..compared to that matsuri gives nothing...as far i know matsuri matching can be pretty bizarre...no idea whether its power or level..i have seen extremes of power and level on both sides of the spectrum....you will definitely lose out on some power due to level freezing..but you could later make up with the higher initiatve you will have

SWB is a bit complicated. For starters, it depends on which server cluster you are in. Some clusters, LA S2-12 for example, only have two sages. The first one being more or less pure 95, the second being from lv 20 to lv 90+. So there, freezing level does very little as you'd be in the second bracket anyway.

On the other hand, on clusters that contain more and newer server, there might be more divisions. And if level freezing puts you on the lower side of a division that you would otherwise cross to the higher side, then it helps. Note that due to the dynamic nature of the bracketing, the dividing lines do move a little, but not much. So to be effective there, you need to know where the lines are and how much they move. You can observe it by looking at what are the highest level players are in your division, going as far as screensshooting the participant list and manually looking them up in the space time battle (thou the ones of interest tend to be the ones that do well, so you could just look at top 5 of each side each time)

But often times, there could be very well no difference between lv 40 and lv 60 as far as sage is concerned, so no arbitrary number is "golden" for sage, you really need to research your own cluster.

As far as masuri goes, as long as you are above par for your level and do not go over the 1 min mark, you will be fine. You might lose some fights but you will be mostly 5. So as far as that goes, a little bit of willful slowdown will suffice, no need to freeze.

No, the seal scroll bit is not an advantage. You are comparing to player of similar level, that is wrong. You should compare progress against player who started around the same time as you. Most truly important feature, namely GNW doesn't care about what level you are. So your consideration should be what you could have been if you didn't freeze, therefore player who started around same time as you. And the people who didn't freeze won't get any less scrolls than you, so there is no difference there.

The benefit of level freezing is Sage and masuri reward. The cost is that you will be lower power than people who progress naturally, which in turn means less, for example, ninja exam progress and thus less power again due to, for example, one tier of equipment upgrade less, short some magatama gains etc. And of course you are giving up fox, which is a lot of coins for various purposes, mostly 8 gate.

Of course, in the long term, those disadvantage disappears. Equipment tier will be maxed either way. Magatama and 8 gate have serious diminishing return as you are getting to lv 6+ magatama in all slots and lv 10+ 8 gate runes etc. This is where you will see real benefits to the choice as you would have a fairly consistent init advantage thanks to the advanced refine while having relatively low power disadvantage as a result.

This is once again reversed to put you in a disadvantage once even non-freezers can get their 1st move up reasonably. But that's going to be quite a while in the future.

It is interesting to note that with the introduction of roshi water healing team, init is less important, because that team you cannot really suppress and disrupt with your faster moves by having speed advantage. The only way to counter that particular team with init is, frankly, some sort of blitz. So as it stands now, level freezing is a bit less beneficial than it used to be.

Level freezing is almost ENTIRELY for sage, and to a minor extent, arena.

Sage bracket is determined by level first, power second. Most levels do not contain enough equal level players for multiple brackets, so it end up being based on level only, with no regard to power. Keeping your level low makes it a lot easier to be the top power in your field.

Arena has a limit of +-10 levels compared to yourself. If you stay at level 84 or below, you can avoid a good number of top players for climbing to 6 paths.

Matsuri is strictly based on your max power displayed in power rankings. Your level, or power from current equipped team does not matter whatsoever. You'll eventually get an advantage in matsuri due to having higher init than anyone you meet without the 60s que timer, but that point take many months to arrive at.

ps: minor pve side effect of level freezing: you can destroy strong approaching, as well as sealed/anbush ninjas in group snake at far lower power by level freezing; as their strength increase exponentially with levels.

I'm pretty sure masuri is based on level first, power second. Because I have a level freezing alt, and most matches below 60 seconds are against player of similar level. Granted, i don't play it that often, so it's not a particularly large sample size. But it have almost never lost except when going over 60 seconds.

Being a char in S12 where the server cluster lacks low level players but quite a few similar power players 20-30 level shigher, that's hardly likely to be a coincident.

I agree with you. Though, for me, the only enjoyment that I get from playing this game is that when the game decides to put me in the SWB bracket where I can actually get top 3 (I'm currently level 92). A few players in that bracket have a little bit more power than me but most of the time I'm able to get at least top 3. Yeah the advance refines are always great but in the last few months, I've realized that being in that bracket where you can actually beat some players is the most important thing for me. If I were in a different bracket with people who have over 100k power, I think I would've quit the game long time ago because there is no fun if you're always losing. It's nice to come home after a long day at work and pwn some people you know and get rewarded for it (btw, I buy monthly pack). Yeah, for my personal opinion, being low level in this game is pretty good.

I cannot say Arena has no level limit what so ever but I can confirm that it is at least 25 levels or higher. I was versing level 80's in Arena at level 55. This was confirmed when encountering builds such as wind main using Sage Art: Wind Style: Sand Dust ( which requires being level 80).

This was encountered this season of Arena as well.

Not really cause you still gather a lot of Battle Armor materials through events. But the point is to focus on 1 thing at a time for example, meeting a goal of all level 6 refines then level up to gain access to Battle Armor and focusing on that to a certain battle armor rank you want.

I'm fully active on my level freezer char in UK. Typical matsuri involves a lvl 90 - 92 player for the first match, followed by 4 lvl 95s. I almost never meet players below 90. Back when I had 30k less pow on the acc, I mostly met players in the 80s.

I'm fully active on my level freezer char in UK. Typical matsuri involves a lvl 90 - 92 player for the first match, followed by 4 lvl 95s. I almost never meet players below 90. Back when I had 30k less pow on the acc, I mostly met players in the 80s.

@IPackaPunch How long ago was that? The level restriction was put in place after 3.0 came out.

I'm in S188 NY the level brackets I think are like 30-86, 80-8x, 87-9x and 94-95. I started to freeze at around 83, I'm now level 86 with about 62k power, and when coming against people with 20-30k power I get 16 refines every sage world battlefields. I suggest learning how the brackets work in your server bracket, and freeze accordingly. Fe. there's no point in freezing at level 70 since ur still going to fight level 86s.