it has many cons and has a little pros XD.
Actually there is a WAY to solve this problem. Oasis should give 100-115 coupons as a reward from first succesfull plunder mission . Problem solved. Plunder mission decreased, regular victim/not strong players happy, and also F2P and P2P strong player happy with the coupon reward so the can still compete with big whale XD.
Some players will quit/retired because cant keep up/compete with P2W(heavy spenders players). Especially for the new server, Its up to oasis english staff in the end. I also play in german server. When patch 4.0 coming, the server become dead, only 1 group doing gnw(ninja krieg in german language XD) and the top player is p2w with 35k power gap with other p2p, he is level 80 with 60k bp also btw lol. Yeah, its very hard to get coupon right now. And in SWB, F2P or P2P players got beaten easily by P2W.
Patch 4.0 favoured P2W mostly. And the players who still stay and play in my server only few now.
A lot more people are getting cave keys than coupons from the tree, since it helps you getting keys without having to spend coupons/ingots to get it. Another thing, how often do we get events where we get free coupons? You can't rely on at all, since that takes too long.
yeah key hav good value in that tree . its like you buy 1 key and u gt 2 free key .
cuz im f2p i need coupons so i always do plunder . but in 4.0 , plunder need to use 15 ingots after free tries .
Thats because people have been abusing plunder and creating bots.. to watch and auto plunder just for coupons.. Dont blame this on them trying to force you to spend money. Blame on the people who are breaking and abusing the system
Thats because people have been abusing plunder and creating bots.. to watch and auto plunder just for coupons.. Dont blame this on them trying to force you to spend money. Blame on the people who are breaking and abusing the system
its not because the bots . even its because the bots , whales still c4n use it . so nothin really change . i dont think loach will use this kind of program . because they dont want accidently plunder big power/lvl
Thats because people have been abusing plunder and creating bots.. to watch and auto plunder just for coupons.. Dont blame this on them trying to force you to spend money. Blame on the people who are breaking and abusing the system
It's not that big of a problem when the plundering is reduce and u can save coupons by not plundering there is the wishing tree and events ,soo you all know what i mean
there is so much misinformation going on in this thread that its kinda sad.
to the people talking about germany's monthly events "no longer giving out seal and summon scrolls in 4.0" they didn't get those in 3.0 either, the monthly event rewards where basicaly the same as they currently are(new ninjas to redeem frags for each month but thats about it).
to the people saying they keep up with spenders who recharge $400 a week just by doing plunder, i call bull. $400 is 20k ingots, plunders give 1050 coupons right now a week, you're not keeping up with some1 with 20x your income.
Also most f2p don't get to plunder either because they aren't in the top 50 of ranked or because they know they just aren't strong enough to win even if they did, or because it takes so much time its not worth doing. So saying 4.0 is the end of f2p because of plunder is ridiculous. Also if you do the math, f2p who can plunder now get 1050 coupons a week,after 4.0 comes they can still get 595 coupons a week from convoy/plunder with a chance for more for free still, so max they lose 455 coupons a week, if they get lucky they only lose 105 coupons a week, but on the flip side people doing convoy lose less coupons when they lose, so most f2p will actually gain more coupons with 4.0.
survival trial becomes easier for everyone, so weaker people get more rewards, and stronger people can fini* faster, the rewards for clearing each "checkpoint" get better as well, more coins and more cultivation runes, and they still give a chance for ninja fragments.
4.0 will also introduce some nice f2p features, including a store that gives lots of different power items for a new type of coins rather than you needing to spend your coupons on them. Xserver GNW will be introduced so your groups get more packs to distribute which means more people(aka f2p) get seal scrolls for free.
anyone who is crying about f2p being screwed over by 4.0 doesn't know how much * they are going to get after it comes out.
there is so much misinformation going on in this thread that its kinda sad.
to the people talking about germany's monthly events "no longer giving out seal and summon scrolls in 4.0" they didn't get those in 3.0 either, the monthly event rewards where basicaly the same as they currently are(new ninjas to redeem frags for each month but thats about it).
to the people saying they keep up with spenders who recharge $400 a week just by doing plunder, i call bull. $400 is 20k ingots, plunders give 1050 coupons right now a week, you're not keeping up with some1 with 20x your income.
Also most f2p don't get to plunder either because they aren't in the top 50 of ranked or because they know they just aren't strong enough to win even if they did, or because it takes so much time its not worth doing. So saying 4.0 is the end of f2p because of plunder is ridiculous. Also if you do the math, f2p who can plunder now get 1050 coupons a week,after 4.0 comes they can still get 595 coupons a week from convoy/plunder with a chance for more for free still, so max they lose 455 coupons a week, if they get lucky they only lose 105 coupons a week, but on the flip side people doing convoy lose less coupons when they lose, so most f2p will actually gain more coupons with 4.0.
survival trial becomes easier for everyone, so weaker people get more rewards, and stronger people can fini* faster, the rewards for clearing each "checkpoint" get better as well, more coins and more cultivation runes, and they still give a chance for ninja fragments.
4.0 will also introduce some nice f2p features, including a store that gives lots of different power items for a new type of coins rather than you needing to spend your coupons on them. Xserver GNW will be introduced so your groups get more packs to distribute which means more people(aka f2p) get seal scrolls for free.
anyone who is crying about f2p being screwed over by 4.0 doesn't know how much * they are going to get after it comes out.
well as f2p , even lost 450 or 105 still much for me . and also some whales not spent wisely . they just go for ninjas not power . or go both . for me just power no ninja for me .
there is so much misinformation going on in this thread that its kinda sad.
to the people talking about germany's monthly events "no longer giving out seal and summon scrolls in 4.0" they didn't get those in 3.0 either, the monthly event rewards where basicaly the same as they currently are(new ninjas to redeem frags for each month but thats about it).
to the people saying they keep up with spenders who recharge $400 a week just by doing plunder, i call bull. $400 is 20k ingots, plunders give 1050 coupons right now a week, you're not keeping up with some1 with 20x your income.
Also most f2p don't get to plunder either because they aren't in the top 50 of ranked or because they know they just aren't strong enough to win even if they did, or because it takes so much time its not worth doing. So saying 4.0 is the end of f2p because of plunder is ridiculous. Also if you do the math, f2p who can plunder now get 1050 coupons a week,after 4.0 comes they can still get 595 coupons a week from convoy/plunder with a chance for more for free still, so max they lose 455 coupons a week, if they get lucky they only lose 105 coupons a week, but on the flip side people doing convoy lose less coupons when they lose, so most f2p will actually gain more coupons with 4.0.
survival trial becomes easier for everyone, so weaker people get more rewards, and stronger people can fini* faster, the rewards for clearing each "checkpoint" get better as well, more coins and more cultivation runes, and they still give a chance for ninja fragments.
4.0 will also introduce some nice f2p features, including a store that gives lots of different power items for a new type of coins rather than you needing to spend your coupons on them. Xserver GNW will be introduced so your groups get more packs to distribute which means more people(aka f2p) get seal scrolls for free.
anyone who is crying about f2p being screwed over by 4.0 doesn't know how much * they are going to get after it comes out.
About the $400 a week, you don't know that. I seen people recharge 2k a month and are still behind some players and f2ps that plunder. You know why? It's from dumb spending. There was a lvl 80 that has gotten Edo Deidara, Susanoo Itachi, and Hokage Tsunade. That guy has 80k power and haven't seen his bp moved at all for 2 months.Also cross server Gnw, you get less seals and stuff from normal Gnw and its a chance to get more seals from cross Gnw, IF your group can make it to cross Gnw. That 450 coupon thing is a major lost, that would mean f2ps wouldn't even catch up to small spenders, in general.
well i know people whining bout the update even not see it yet .just some update its really sad for f2p. but well i heard u can gt some rare frags from survival such as itachi sus or sasuke sus . so i love it , i will look forward into it .
* so much off topic and none saying clearly when; i will give my opinion, i expect it to come somewhere in the january-february zone
and to clarify some ppl,if it was THAT bad how you guys say it is then not many would still play china let's be real there will be other ways of geting stuff,and if a spender uses ingots on plunder/convoy go ahead,if he has that many ingots that he can waste on those then there would be no chance for me to have a competition with him,plunder or not
* so much off topic and none saying clearly when; i will give my opinion, i expect it to come somewhere in the january-february zone
and to clarify some ppl,if it was THAT bad how you guys say it is then not many would still play china let's be real there will be other ways of geting stuff,and if a spender uses ingots on plunder/convoy go ahead,if he has that many ingots that he can waste on those then there would be no chance for me to have a competition with him,plunder or not
dam some 1 gave an answer ty
JUst no no no i dont want it no no no . its the end of f2p .
No thanks.
I dont wanna hold back 4.0 because of 1 bad update.
I want the game to progress as much as possible, If OAS fixes the bad updates more power to them.
f2p will whining over the updates and p2w will laugh bout it .
I believe a mod already mentioned that although we follow the same update route, some features may or may not be the same as they were on other versions. Just hope that they instead come up with creative ideas to cater the needs of both f2p and p2p players.
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