Don't compare this games pixels to art and most certainly don't compare ingots a fictional currency to real life currency, they are both very different things. I don't have a problem with a lottery system but 600$ for a rare quality ninja is ridiculous and you can say it's recharge and that you get him as a bonus but the way I see it is them basically forcing you to pay 600$ to get him, The bonuses are like 5% value at best of the 30k ingots. the way I see it players aren't recharging 30k for that shiny gold purification pill or a level 6 magatama they are recharging for the core ninja.

There is no inherit difference between so called "in game pixels" and art. They are both items of no intrinsic value* and only gain value due to people's appreciation and the entertainment they bring. Any argument in the contrary, without actual logical backing, is merely bias honed by time. Art have been around a long time, so it have been accepted as valuable. Movies, as it were, were merely a demonstration of technological wonder and did not become a form of art until quite some years after its conception. Many people have been pushing for games, anime and more such modern concept as art. Granted, this game is a poor example of it, but fact remains that there is no intrinsic differences

*Art, and any other form of media, do potentially have historical value, that is to say to let the "future" people learn of the time at which the art is created. But this is only true for certain type of art and generally not true for abstract art. As it were, abstract art depends on knowing the background in which it is created in order to be understood, the complete opposite of this form of value. Digital games are, as it were, a fairly modern invention. So it is difficult to say whether they will end up having such historical value in the future. But if nothing else, it would provide some insight into our technological level for future man to figure out, should for some reason or another, no better record exist. There are also games, certainly not this one as far as I can see, that have certain cultural and political information baked into them. So there is that too. So in a way, on this front, the "good" games will be comparable with arts in general, whereas games like this is quite comparable to the modern abstract art.

And there is almost no, if any at all, "real" currency in circulation today. We have long past the point at which we use currency of actual value, such as gold and silver. Most currency today are fiat currency, that is to say something with value that is enforced by a governing entity and/or agreement between governing entities. As far as the game goes, the game IS the governing entity. So while ingot is certainly not recognized outside of its bound, it is a fiat currency within the game. It is, in fact, no different than a currency issued by some dictator that works perfectly well (risk of hyperinflation aside) within a certain country but not recognized by the international community. The game, as it were, is very much a dictatorship.

And if that does not sate you, think bitcoin vs ether instead of yuan vs USD. Neither of those are currency of intrinsic value nor even currency that is enforced by governing entities. They hold value because people accept that they hold value. If, somehow, one single person buys up ALL the bitcoin (or ether), there is every chance that everyone else will simply go "meh, it's worthless now" because there is nothing stopping that from happening. So if it makes you happy, think about buying bitcoin with ether or vise versa. The same logic would still apply, you did NOT pay the full price for a specific PART of the product you bought.

In any case, do try to come up with a logical argument instead of merely dismissing things you don't like/agree with. Things don't randomly become true because you say so, you need to back it up with reasons.

I would support revealing rates. That said, given unknown rate, I believe it is the responsibility of the player to be pessimistic. If you aren't and lose out, that's still mostly on you. I've never opposed this particular option before.

What I have a problem with is the unrealistic expectations some people have shown and then proceed to blame the game for their own fault.

You see, I am fine with a mostly objective statement of "rate is low" after some amount of observation. This can very well be an objective fact.

I am not fine with "rate is low, it made me waste money, it's game's fault, the rate is unfair". This is people unwilling to accept the blame and fault of their own actions and demonstrating entitlement.

As for option 2, there is literally nothing to be gained for the company to raise the rates. Because even if it is as high as 10%, there could be someone not getting it after 100 rolls (roughly 1 out of 40,000, a bit of a stretch to happen in a single event, but will happen eventually) and then we will see fresh complaints of "omg this game is rigged against me, caz everyone else gawt it and i didn't" because people will continue to not understand how randomness works.

And do you think people will actually notice or be able to prove a rate change from 0.5% to 0.6%? I seriously doubt it. Since all we can see is yes or no, it would literally take hundreds of thousands of pulls and thus hundreds of drops to even come up with a reasonable conclusion. This alone is not impossible, it can easily be done between all the servers. The problem would be data collection. How do you know, aside from yourself, how many pull any other player have done? From the perspective of a single player, you can't see the difference of "a little, TINY change in the rates", fact of the matter is that as a single player, you cannot draw a concrete conclusion on whether rates changed unless it change by a factor of at least 2, probably 5, especially if you stop pulling after getting the item you want. And news flash, a increase of 100% or 400% from the base rate is not "a little, TINY change in the rates".

So fact of the matter is, complaint will continue. Because most people don't care about what the reality is, they only care about what they perceive.

On second thought, revealing rate will have its own problems. Because yet again, people don't know how randomness works. If they tell you it's 2% and you don't get it after 100 rolls, you are probably going to rage. Never mind the chance of NOT getting it is 13.2%, or roughly 1 in 8, so pretty much one in every other server or so(for more active servers anyway). Nope, people aren't going to care that they are just unlucky, they are going to accuse that the rate is false regardless of whether it is (to be clear, it could be a lie, but somehow I don't see people doing a sufficiently large number study that's unbiased. That pretty much never happens, in any game, people will just rage first and refuse to think through it rationally)

I wonder if rate should be revealed after all... they really should make statistic a mandatory course in school...

So you see, it's not a matter of whether I want them to do something. It's a matter of I actually think through whether them doing it will have any positive effect for them. And the sad truth is, the answer will probably be no. So why would they? You are overestimating "people", probably because you haven't been to enough forums.

I'm surprised this post haven't been muted because people started being emotional about RNG events and bashing on opinions from others. It's simple, if you plan to be on spending on a rng event, then think that you are going to lose that amount rather than thinking of getting a win. No one wants to see another whine post about spending a lot on a rng event when someone spends a few since this happens all the time and I figured people would learn from other people's mistakes.

If you have a finite amount of resources (coupons) then are you willing to waste all of it on gambling? I don't know about most people but when I go gamble, I have a certain amount I'm willing to spend and willing to lose. This mindset should be applied if you do these RNG events.

Even if you notice these events are rigged are shown to favour new players, so what? This applies to every other games where you spend money to a character. I don't know how many times I made low level accounts on here and on other games and I got better characters than when I started on my main account.

Hi! We try our best to make sure that the posts are in line with forum rules and obtain any feedback the players give. Constructive criticism and a discussion on it is great, which is why we try our best not to close them. However, sometimes discussions do have an emotional element to it because it does involve what you feel and think about something so I do understand.

I believe that some of the comments have started to target individuals instead of the topic at hand and slowly going off-topic.

I will be obtaining all the feedback and closing this thread.

~Jib