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On 2017-11-07 22:30:23Show All Posts
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  • CynicalRave On 2017-11-07 15:44:26
  • I'm the author of the linked post @op, I think it would be fair to show the percentage rates at of pulling rare ninjas at least. I'm at 288 pulls now... That's 5760 coupons/ingots for literally 200 mood scrolls. Like, really?

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On 2017-11-08 04:09:03Show All Posts
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  • Rick_Sanchez On 2017-11-08 02:03:22
  • Come on guys..grow up..i have been playing this game for 6 months now and i have seen a deluge of these posts about the element of luck. For those of you who spend more on this particular event, there is a reward option for top 10 in draws, who get magatamas, rune stones etc. Why do you think it is there? It is there to reward people who are putting more. And if you think just a level 5 or 6 magatama for so much spending, then dont spend on this event and wait for him to come in other events where you have better redeem options. You have to determine the value of each event based on the items you get for sure esp the redeem rewards.

    Consider the value of a ninja like Edo deidara...he was there in the recharge rebate for claiming full 80 frags at 30000 ingots points....Making 100 draws(=2000 coupons) and expecting to get him is ridiculous. You should be grateful that they are giving an opportunity to get one of the premium ninjas in RNG rather than keeping him closed for P2W players. The present system is fine. You just cant blame a low level player who ends up getting him in a free draw.I have every right to say this, since no one has got an hashirama from the mission packs in my server also. No edo deidara in my server also. There are two masked man in my server, both players are below level 52. One of the top players spent 15000 ingots and didnt get masked man from lucky stars. I have spent a lot in the game, and i have been never lucky in those crazy slot machines. Just live with it, thats the way things will be around here. After getting hit multiple times you will learn that its better to spend on some events and not others, and above all its best to spend coupons on directly what you want to buy.

    And about displaying drop rates.Think about it. Its never going to happen. The reason is obvious if you think from OAS perspective




so you think 30k ingots which is about 600$ for one ninja that's going to get old real soon after 4-5 months is fair?. masked man and minato will be viable and relevant for years to come and they are cheaper about 180-250$ each.





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On 2017-11-08 05:28:32Show All Posts
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-11-08 04:36:04
  • 1. you are not paying 30k ingot to get him, so that's not the correct valuation. that's like me converting 10,000 chinese Yuan to USD and getting $1506.25 then proceed to claim that the 25 cents cost me 10,000 yuan and that the exchange rate is ridiculous.

    Granted, people often value ingots less than its face value, so whatever difference will go toward the extra rewards, but that still does not mean the WHOLE thing is SPENT on the ninja (and you are ignoring other reward tiers)


    2. Any sale price is fair as long as the purchase is optional. I don't think abstract art are worth the canvas they are painted on yet they are sold for hundreds, thousands or even much much more. But that's fair, I'm not to forced to buy the useless thing.


    3. If they actually value something at "X" then it makes sense that on average you are expected to spend "X" before getting it out of a random event. Expecting anything less would be foolish. Noiw, the valuation is certainly not at 30k, but it could still be quite high. And when you play the lottery, you can lose. So there is really no one to blame but you for the decision you made. Did you know that the lottery is called a tax on the poor as well as a tax on the *a word for less than intelligent*?


    So man up and accept your own responsibilities. There are plenty of things in the game that can be, in fact, blamed on the game. Such as arena, DB, masuri (not in the way most people think), sage (also not in the way most people think) and so on. But this is NOT one of them. This, no matter how bad the rate, is on the player.

    That is, of course, assuming that the RNG is independent, that is to say they are not doing some gimmick to tie it to level, play time, spending etc (as there is rumor that newbie gets increased chances to draw them in and make them stay) That's a rather difficult thing to prove or disprove and not really the topic of discussion. But it is important to note that if that were true, then it is the game's fault, as it's shady practice.

Don't compare this games pixels to art and most certainly don't compare ingots a fictional currency to real life currency, they are both very different things. I don't have a problem with a lottery system but 600$ for a rare quality ninja is ridiculous and you can say it's recharge and that you get him as a bonus but the way I see it is them basically forcing you to pay 600$ to get him, The bonuses are like 5% value at best of the 30k ingots. the way I see it players aren't recharging 30k for that shiny gold purification pill or a level 6 magatama they are recharging for the core ninja.


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On 2017-11-08 12:21:47Show All Posts
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  • Danzō On 2017-11-08 11:46:02
  • I'm surprised this post haven't been muted because people started being emotional about RNG events and bashing on opinions from others. It's simple, if you plan to be on spending on a rng event, then think that you are going to lose that amount rather than thinking of getting a win. No one wants to see another whine post about spending a lot on a rng event when someone spends a few since this happens all the time and I figured people would learn from other people's mistakes.


    If you have a finite amount of resources (coupons) then are you willing to waste all of it on gambling? I don't know about most people but when I go gamble, I have a certain amount I'm willing to spend and willing to lose. This mindset should be applied if you do these RNG events.


    Even if you notice these events are rigged are shown to favour new players, so what? This applies to every other games where you spend money to a character. I don't know how many times I made low level accounts on here and on other games and I got better characters than when I started on my main account.


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