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On 2017-09-29 02:12:28Show All Posts
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On 2017-09-29 04:15:59Show All Posts
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  • Zathroth On 2017-09-29 04:00:33
  • His dmg is mostly based on chakra, not buffs that can be removed by han. R1 he already hits hard, R2 with full chakra and chases = basically a dead target + heavily damaged others in line.

    Yeah, I've thought about new blitz once cloud treasure comes out, but thats still few weeks from now, if not months.

    JustSaying, my scenario states, that their han c*ways go off, so basically any short term buffs are wasted (fire enhancement), leech might still be useful though. Im halfway there to get obito and hidan, sasuke hopefully within 100 seals now, will give it a try once i get them.

    Tobei, could you elaborate? Right now sounds good, doesnt neccessarily work. They have 2 costant sources of debuffs, often with chaos during chase from main. Cant think of main + ninja, that would deal enough dmg without buffs to kill main.

    Btw. if we could rule out susanoo itachi and make a team of any other available ninjas, including super rares from all other treasures except cloud, that would be nice.

Position 4 Hanzo or Gakido

The layer of debuff that matters is Poison. You can deal with Ignite.

If they're running Chaos instead of amplified healing, That's better for you.

A simple team that works quite well is Sage Naruto/Bee/Hanzo/Sailor

Doesn't focus on buffs, and has enough self-sustain.

Or better yet.


Roshi/Bee/Hanzo/Sailor

Notice how I'm keeping with Hanzo+Sailor. It hard counters that chaos combo, Either Hanzo will remove it and give your Sailor a standard to remove a layer with her heal. Or your sailor will heal off Hanzo.

That Han team is better with Mei, not Roshi.


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On 2017-09-29 10:07:37Show All Posts
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  • SoldMom4Ingots On 2017-09-29 06:11:31
  • Nah dude neither hanzo nor gakido are going to work in a formation against healer teams lol plus having mei over roshi makes the team a lot weaker because a healer team relies heavily on the tankyness of both roshi and han combined, the whole team works mainly thanks to han and roshis ability to take the hit and live through it while mei's gonna get *n up by any obito mask centered builds easily like straight up gone post 2nd round...

You say they don't.

I'm saying they do.


And they're very possible to beat. Or else I wouldn't be suggesting Hanzo/Gakido.

I've faced this team and frankly, it's extremely subpar if you're consistently able to deal with its debuff spam.

" the whole team works mainly thanks to han and roshis ability to take the hit" You're ignoring the Poison/Ignite(If Roshi is hit) part.

Han doesn't deal damage and Roshi is extremely situational as his mystery is weak early on. You don't have reliability and are forced to accept a mystery for a few rounds.

Mei provides that "ump" you need. Of course, they're gonna focus her, that's why you have two healers. If Masked Man focuses her end of T1, she'll be healed T2.
Nobody in their right mind would use their hard CC on Mei while there are two healers armed and ready for a 0 cost mystery. Also R2, It's Han that's gonna attack, Not Mei.

Mei provides the field aura(barrier) and allows Han to ACTUALLY have some input with his mystery.






This post was last edited by Tobei on 2017-09-29 10:08:55.
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On 2017-09-30 02:06:56Show All Posts
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  • Attac an Respec On 2017-09-30 02:00:32
  • Then why is he so much cheaper then ay 4th raikage because I heard he is just as good as ay with cloud or tag oriented teams.


4th is focused on outright being a blitz juggernaut.


3rd not so much. He mostly relies on his mystery/chase synergies


Both can have roughly the same team with Samui supporting, but it'll be more effective in the 4th's hands as his damage will come T1. (Unless you're facing a Masked Man)





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