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On 2017-09-28 20:09:56Show All Posts
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No Idea how to deal with this team, this team and cloud support ay/A teams are preventing me from reaching sennin in arena.

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On 2017-09-29 19:20:21Show All Posts
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  • Zathroth On 2017-09-29 04:00:33
  • His dmg is mostly based on chakra, not buffs that can be removed by han. R1 he already hits hard, R2 with full chakra and chases = basically a dead target + heavily damaged others in line.

    Yeah, I've thought about new blitz once cloud treasure comes out, but thats still few weeks from now, if not months.

    JustSaying, my scenario states, that their han c*ways go off, so basically any short term buffs are wasted (fire enhancement), leech might still be useful though. Im halfway there to get obito and hidan, sasuke hopefully within 100 seals now, will give it a try once i get them.

    Tobei, could you elaborate? Right now sounds good, doesnt neccessarily work. They have 2 costant sources of debuffs, often with chaos during chase from main. Cant think of main + ninja, that would deal enough dmg without buffs to kill main.

    Btw. if we could rule out susanoo itachi and make a team of any other available ninjas, including super rares from all other treasures except cloud, that would be nice.

also just want to confirm he costs 210 seal scrolls just like roshi and Han right? I saw a post somewhere saying 210 for A third raikage

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On 2017-09-30 02:00:32Show All Posts
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  • Zathroth On 2017-09-29 21:34:00
  • That's correct.

Then why is he so much cheaper then ay 4th raikage because I heard he is just as good as ay with cloud or tag oriented teams.


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On 2017-09-30 04:35:03Show All Posts
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  • Tobei On 2017-09-30 02:06:56
  • 4th is focused on outright being a blitz juggernaut.


    3rd not so much. He mostly relies on his mystery/chase synergies


    Both can have roughly the same team with Samui supporting, but it'll be more effective in the 4th's hands as his damage will come T1. (Unless you're facing a Masked Man)


Well on my server my group mate has masked man with 48k BP and he can beat blitz teams even if he has 20k less bp. So I guess A third raikage will be a safe bet as he is not only cheaper but c*so deal with masked man.

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On 2017-10-01 05:32:39Show All Posts
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  • Zathroth On 2017-09-30 05:11:21
  • Attac an Respec, there's almost a year apart in 4th and 3rd Ay, over time we will get even more ninjas, that are easier (cheaper) to get than current ones we have and have similar if not better battle capabilities. And if their cost is the same, they most likely wil simply outperform current ones, just like kages outclassed pains.

    Those two, as Tobei said, serve different purposes and have different scalings. 3rd Ay scales with chakra, which none of current viable ninjas (except kisame, shino and torune who arent played at all) can take away. 4th Ay doesnt have that scaling, so he relies on buffs (and tag, which only amplifies 1-2 autos though) to make dmg, which currently both obito and han can take away with ease.


    Thank you guys for your help, I'll get to testing as soon as I have a chance.

mabui and itachi uchiha can create chakra, plus light main can create 20-60 chakra from one of his standards, fire main can create 20 more chakra round 1 in the buffing phase before any standards start, killer bee samehada can steal up to 20-60 chakra, Nagato can steal up to 40 chakra with standard etc I got all of the ninjas I mentioned and some of them are even compatible with A like bee samehada and mabui.

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On 2017-10-03 02:14:42Show All Posts
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I just recently acquired Sailor sakura and can easily get Han (I got the seals from gnw packs) but I won't do it, The same reason I haven't plundered once because it's just wrong. I got roshi too.

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