I honestly find the Water/Mei meta team one of the cheapest in the game, and even a good amount of heavy P2W players in my server that can easily beat it consider it a cancer team. I have 70k BP, but I try to avoid Azure Fangs during SWB in the chance that they'll have that team. Because that team can kill you even if it has 10k-15k less BP. And yeah, having a ninja that has an Immobilizing Mystery (like Scarlet Blaze and/or Shikamaru) that can be used round 1 can help counter it, but if you don't have a ninja like that then your only real chance is if you have higher Initiative. Which most that use that team give all the Initiative to Mabui, so even if your team is overall faster, there's still a chance Mabui will go first. And most Azure Fangs have a clone in front of Mabui as well, so Blitzing doesn't always work either. This team is even worse during auto battles like Ranked or Space-Time since you can't actively do anything to perhaps prevent GNW Tenten obliterating your team(s). Also, from the looks of it, 50%-75% of players in most servers that use Azure Fang use that team, and it's because it's a cancer team and can easily win.

All-in-all, yes it does need to be nerfed in some way to balance it better. At the very least give GNW Tenten's Mystery a Battlefield Cooling of 1 so that it can't be used til round 2. That, or reduce the amount of Chakra Mabui can give each round from 40-20. She heals as well, so it wouldn't be asking too much to reduce it to 20 a round. GNW Tenten or Mei would still be able to use their Mystery round 2 even if Mabui only gave 20 Chakra a round.

It's only by comboing the * out of her, getting her chaosed and then getting the Water Main under lock so that they aren't able to heal her right afterwards. Or you kill her with brute force and combos. I'm able to do it if I'm up against a really weak person, but they're likely to stack Poison + Neuro and St. Heal, and of course there's initiative.

Weirdly enough, I've come across this team several times where the person running it didn't spam me with TenTen's mystery the first round despite having the chakra to do so...

i Though this is one of easiest water meta to beat , because of new meta and Skillbreak

I used to hate that team too until I reached 60k power then the problems of that lineup started to show. There are so many ways to destroy that lineup, you can:

If you are fast then Kill Mabui asap, disable tenten, any form of blitz teams, chakra absorb ninjas,etc

if you are slow then bombard them with Gaara 4*, disable mabui for next round then disable water next round and kill Mei...

There is a reason why almost nobody uses that lineup in high level and that reason is because it's a cheese lineup with lots of holes.

Huh, interesting... Maybe some of them were afk, or just didn't want to win by spamming Tenten like so many that use that team do! XD

This team is good initially but later on too many counters for it.

Simple counter just use a normal gaara to change barrier at turn 1, use gakido to counter act ten ten paralysis sage naruto to deal damage or someone who can interrupt Mei mystery at turn 2. With out the barrier they don’t hurt that much. Once you get rid of Mei it’s gg

Another method is just get 2-3 control and you can owned that team easily

I know a good amount of players that use the team/strategy you mentioned though, and still get decimated by this water team despite having more power/init than it.

lol if they beat hem in power and init and they lose... they need to polish up their skills

u need to know who to aim and when to interrupt. for first 2 round its critical to disable mabui standard attks and second round u can interrupt water main as it will heal.

No, this team is still cheap. Even if you know who to target/interrupt, it's still a cheap ass team. And it's kinda hard to interrupt when most of those involve chases and Tenten's chase messes tht up round 1. So yes, this team needs to be nerfed in some way! Hell, tht's all I faced today was tht team and lost a battle I would've won since I had 10k more BP and higher init than it! And I targeted exactly what you said. But since Mei and Water clone has like a 75% chance to cause Acupuncture, couldn't do anything the next round. So yes, it's a cheap team and it needs to be nerfed! Mei needs to lose 2 of her debuffs, 2 buffs and 4 debuffs is ridiculous for a single ninja to have. And since everyone really just use it because of Tenten's Mystery (hell, I've had players straight up retreat if I -on the rare occasion- messed up them using Tenten round 1), she needs a Battle Cooling of 1. She could still use her Mystery round 2 if the player chose due to Mabui. If this team wasn't an actual cancer team, then I seriously doubt so many heavy p2ws tht can easily stomp it would say it is.

Seriously, if you are wining by bp and initiative no way u can lose if you know who disable. They are many counter, recently another common way is ppl using Kisame at action 1 to drain chakra from mabui to prevent tenten from using her mystery.

My brother account is a lightning main he own that team easily with these 3 ninja

Kinkaku action 1 immobile mabui first turn so no mabui no mystery for tenten at rd 1

Lightning main action 2 activate lightning armor with assassinate attk with this u can kill off mabui this turn

Darui action 3 to disable Mei barrier with lightning barrier provided you win in initiative

Omoi the immune and shield on 2 ninja on round 1. And he can start combo easily

Don’t forget kinkaku chases 2 x with acupuncture

That team is nothing to be feared. Wait til you see the real monsters which chaos you til you die

I have Bee [Samehade Sword] and I'll admit that works against this team if you have higher init, but I don't always use him every SWB or Matsuri (for PvP examples). And even if I did, that's still not the point. You shouldn't have to use specific ninjas just to beat, no not even beat... compete with ONE team when you have 10k-15k more BP and are faster! You also kinda said indirectly that if you don't have a ninja that can immobilize Mabui round 1 you're screwed. And you apparently ignored the fact that I stated that heavy P2W teams (with BP ranging from 90k-115k and have exclusive ninjas) that can easily crush this team consider it a cheap cancer team. Why would players that have no trouble with a team call it a cancer team if it wasn't and didn't need nerfing in some form? And I know who to disable and when, as I've beaten this team before. Like I said earlier, during Matsuri I faced this team (my team was MB, Mu, Ao and Gakido) and had 11k more BP and was faster. Had Gakido remove Tenten's Paralysis from round 1, chased and prevented Mabui from doing anything, and had Ao prevent AF from healing round 2. But the Water clone sealed Mu (and a water clone and Mei both seem to have a 50%-75% chance of sealing) so I couldn't do anything round 3 and that's all that team needed. So see, I know whom to target. And there is nothing wrong with a simple nerf of giving Tenten's Mystery a Battlefield Cooling of 1 when her 60 Chakra Mystery would still be able to be used round 2. As for Mei, a single ninja having 2 buffs and 4 debuffs is excessive. And it's dumb that ninjas with only 0-1 buff and 1-2 debuffs have been nerfed, but not one with 2 buffs/4 debuffs.

I've used that team for a long time and still is one of my expendable teams in matsuri. But yes, there are many ways to counter that team now.

lol u are beyond reasoning. I was telling u there are many counter even pointed out a few. but u twisted my words.

I was sharing 1 of the possible counters that my brother use. it doesn't meant u are only limited to it. In swb, ppl use that water team to kill fast but can be stopped by many other lineup. anyway if u are saying that this team is deadly why not u go banned 3rd raikage team lol.

well no point commenting here since constructive comments are not welcomed I should stop here

Mei mabui tenten team heavily depends on chakra. Ninjas like nagato, bee samehada and kisame are counters against it if you own initiative. Other counters are ninjas able to stop mabui in round 1 (theoretically all the mains are able to counter it by themselves currently. Mb, sb and cf can directly do it even without initiative, af and cf without 1st mystery but with immobile passive can do it owning initiative and mb can acupuncture tenten after mabui healed).

well mabui cant heal her if the shield isnt broken and water main can only hear her 2nd round

well actually i use water meta and even when mabui is controlled its still REALLY good

If your barrier is still there yes, u still can come back but if your barrier gone. You 90% will lose the battle

Use Ino bikini in round 1 at Mabui :)

Yes they shoud nerf every team people hate :)

I love my team ;)