I honestly find the Water/Mei meta team one of the cheapest in the game, and even a good amount of heavy P2W players in my server that can easily beat it consider it a cancer team. I have 70k BP, but I try to avoid Azure Fangs during SWB in the chance that they'll have that team. Because that team can kill you even if it has 10k-15k less BP. And yeah, having a ninja that has an Immobilizing Mystery (like Scarlet Blaze and/or Shikamaru) that can be used round 1 can help counter it, but if you don't have a ninja like that then your only real chance is if you have higher Initiative. Which most that use that team give all the Initiative to Mabui, so even if your team is overall faster, there's still a chance Mabui will go first. And most Azure Fangs have a clone in front of Mabui as well, so Blitzing doesn't always work either. This team is even worse during auto battles like Ranked or Space-Time since you can't actively do anything to perhaps prevent GNW Tenten obliterating your team(s). Also, from the looks of it, 50%-75% of players in most servers that use Azure Fang use that team, and it's because it's a cancer team and can easily win.

All-in-all, yes it does need to be nerfed in some way to balance it better. At the very least give GNW Tenten's Mystery a Battlefield Cooling of 1 so that it can't be used til round 2. That, or reduce the amount of Chakra Mabui can give each round from 40-20. She heals as well, so it wouldn't be asking too much to reduce it to 20 a round. GNW Tenten or Mei would still be able to use their Mystery round 2 even if Mabui only gave 20 Chakra a round.

Huh, interesting... Maybe some of them were afk, or just didn't want to win by spamming Tenten like so many that use that team do! XD

I know a good amount of players that use the team/strategy you mentioned though, and still get decimated by this water team despite having more power/init than it.

No, this team is still cheap. Even if you know who to target/interrupt, it's still a cheap ass team. And it's kinda hard to interrupt when most of those involve chases and Tenten's chase messes tht up round 1. So yes, this team needs to be nerfed in some way! Hell, tht's all I faced today was tht team and lost a battle I would've won since I had 10k more BP and higher init than it! And I targeted exactly what you said. But since Mei and Water clone has like a 75% chance to cause Acupuncture, couldn't do anything the next round. So yes, it's a cheap team and it needs to be nerfed! Mei needs to lose 2 of her debuffs, 2 buffs and 4 debuffs is ridiculous for a single ninja to have. And since everyone really just use it because of Tenten's Mystery (hell, I've had players straight up retreat if I -on the rare occasion- messed up them using Tenten round 1), she needs a Battle Cooling of 1. She could still use her Mystery round 2 if the player chose due to Mabui. If this team wasn't an actual cancer team, then I seriously doubt so many heavy p2ws tht can easily stomp it would say it is.

I have Bee [Samehade Sword] and I'll admit that works against this team if you have higher init, but I don't always use him every SWB or Matsuri (for PvP examples). And even if I did, that's still not the point. You shouldn't have to use specific ninjas just to beat, no not even beat... compete with ONE team when you have 10k-15k more BP and are faster! You also kinda said indirectly that if you don't have a ninja that can immobilize Mabui round 1 you're screwed. And you apparently ignored the fact that I stated that heavy P2W teams (with BP ranging from 90k-115k and have exclusive ninjas) that can easily crush this team consider it a cheap cancer team. Why would players that have no trouble with a team call it a cancer team if it wasn't and didn't need nerfing in some form? And I know who to disable and when, as I've beaten this team before. Like I said earlier, during Matsuri I faced this team (my team was MB, Mu, Ao and Gakido) and had 11k more BP and was faster. Had Gakido remove Tenten's Paralysis from round 1, chased and prevented Mabui from doing anything, and had Ao prevent AF from healing round 2. But the Water clone sealed Mu (and a water clone and Mei both seem to have a 50%-75% chance of sealing) so I couldn't do anything round 3 and that's all that team needed. So see, I know whom to target. And there is nothing wrong with a simple nerf of giving Tenten's Mystery a Battlefield Cooling of 1 when her 60 Chakra Mystery would still be able to be used round 2. As for Mei, a single ninja having 2 buffs and 4 debuffs is excessive. And it's dumb that ninjas with only 0-1 buff and 1-2 debuffs have been nerfed, but not one with 2 buffs/4 debuffs.

Great! Give players the money to easily obtain those ninjas and everything will be golden! Lol XD

Btw, I was (trying) being playful, not a smartass or anything. Just to be clear. ;P

I KNOW there are many counters to this team, as I've used a few of them myself! But most players early-to-midway are still gonna have trouble in having those ninjas (unless they're P2W), and this Water team isn't difficult to obtain pretty early (Note: By early, I don't mean a few months worth of playing). You also have to keep in mind Arena where a lot of the counters/strategies to use on this team won't work since it'll do way more damage! And again, you ignored where I said a lot of the strongest players in my server with BP ranging from 90k-140k with Ninjas that can easily counter and destroy this team consider it a cheap/cancer team! I don't see why multiple players that have no problem against a specific team would straight-out say it's cheap/cancerous if there wasn't some merit of truth to be found. I could use this team myself if I so chose, but I consider it cheap as well so I don't. And remember, I'm not the OP of this thread, I just merely agree with him. So your suggestions, while appreciated, are best off given to them. Not me. If it wasn't for so many insanely high-powered players stating they think this Water team is cheap/cancerous and needs nerfed, I'd simply figured I kept using the wrong Ninjas, even when I win against it but barely.