You will get almost all free ninjas from survival over time, all those that drop 30/80 frags. It just takes time. Also in black market, I tend to buy all 3 gold items, doesnt matter what they are. The longest time will take genins (ino, shikamaru, naruto etc) since they drop only 5frag tops. But, in time you will also get their frags without sweeping. Most of us played for 6months, some even since release and we simply have all elite instance and shop ninjas (survival/ranked) at 5*, because at some point you simply have nothing to spend your coins on. Buying certain ninja frags/sweeping their instance only speeds up the process.

Already answered your question: if you dont need anything else from survival/ranked shop, sweep hinata/kabuto/sai/lee, because they give 10pts when refined and cost only 500coins in their respective shop.

As for sweeping- I sweep ninjas, that i want to have skillbroken in the future- deidara, shikamaru, ino, sasuku, tobi, tsunade or want them 5* and sweeping is the easiest option- ningendo, tobi/deidara before i 5* them. If iI have spare stamina and still choose to sweep elite instances, i go for any 10pts ninja, doesnt matter which one.

ok i understand. will continue spending on ranked on hinata and survival kabuto for now. i will sweep to get their frags and by time i will get the other frags via survival trial aswell.

thank you so much for your help. i asked because i was curious on how people got lots of 5 star ninjas.

They used to be before cultivation was implemented, that's why somebody said in the past to go for them in arena shop.

Btw,choji is pretty good for itachi sa with azure fang, so if he didn't get gnw choji he could aim to at least 3 star him.

What I did Juve89 was 5 star Kabuto/Hinata asap. These ninjas when you have 5 frags are 10 points a frag. So even when you do 5 star them (and if you 5 star naruto/sasuke/sakura) you can ac*ulate a lot of frags quickly for refinement.

since i have space time now.

my battle armor is rank 4 so to get advanced thread will take a while.

my tactic is lv3 ghost kill.

so what should i go for in space time shop? advanced thread or tactic?

GROUP = Medium Refines and Summon Contracts. You'll want as many Summon Contracts as you'll need at any given time to move along with progressing your summons, but no more - and the focus here is really just to get as many medium refines as possible, methinks.

ARENA = Unbound Rune. You need literally a zillion of these things... so just buy them and never stop buying them. The Redemption Merchant refreshed? Go buy more Unbound Runes.

RANKING = Hinata. Have you 5-starred Hinata? Keep buying her anyways. She turns into Iruka frags. So just keep buying Hinata.

SURVIVAL = Kabuto and/or Lee. Both turn into Iruka frags at 10 per, same as Hinata, so just keep buying either.

SUMMON = Runes and only the runes. Don't buy frags... those summons come eventually.

SPACE-TIME = Tactics and Thread. The tactics are fine to start... but after you progress them enough, you'll quickly want to turn into the thread (even if you're not on Advanced Thread yet) because Advanced Thread is almost impossible to get and you'll want a zillion of it... that means you'll be glad you used Space-Time shop to get it.

Having said all that, it's not that bad to get some of the ninjas like Deidara or Sasori or whatever just so that they show up at your Home and you can start talking to them. But if you have recruited someone like a Deidara then you definitely don't want to keep getting his frags from Merchant over something like Kabuto or Lee since in the long run the iruka and the scrolls you get from refining Lee and Kabuto frags is going to be much more valuable to you then some silly 5-star Deidara or whatever.

You can go for adv threads and save them up for when you're ready for them then use them during a rebate, or you can go for tactic pages.

I'm personally stacking adv threads since they don't seem to drop in SA.

i have 1 summon with all rank 6 and 2 with all rank 5 for runes.

i have 12620 summon points for the shop.

what would you suggest to buy?

lv5 runes? or start getting king of hell frags when i have enough ( 18k) ?

If you want power- runes, if summon- koh. Drawing super rare from summon treasure takes about a year+ of saving scrolls. Koh requires 288 000 coins (if you dont get any frags in the meantime) and Kirin as another super rare can be slowly pieced in lucky board and events, since he's been put there pretty often recently. If you start selling every rune and save every summon coin you get, thats still about 8 months of saving for that ammount of coins. After you pull super rare, 80frags are converted the same way as normal yellow summon, that is 4k coins. It's your call if you want to invest nearly 300k coins with a 50/50 possibility to get a huge disappointment later on (when dupe is drawn). That being said, koh is a really good summon that helps a lot in current high combo chase meta. Plenty of future ninjas have 30+ chases as well, so koh can be used there.

Propably the best thing you can do, is to get your runes to lv7, then save coins. If you pull koh, good, spend saved coins on either kirin (if u want) or runes. If u pull kirin, u can get missing koh fragments. This way if you pull koh, you wont waste ~300k coins.

you can get only frags of king of hell but i understand to get him it will take lots of time so i used my points on power.

i should sell all the runes of lv1,2,3? or only the level 1 and 2? so i get more points to buy the lv5 runes

You can pull whole kirin or koh, requires about 2k scrolls.

king of hell and kirin are the 'super rare' in summon draw, like are Ay 4th and Sasuke Susano'o in kage treasure. You get one once you reach 2000 draws (also free draws matter for it)

ok i understand but what about my other question?

should i sell all of my lv1,2 and 3 runes to buy the level 5 runes?

I think this is the only things worth buying on the shop:

group shop - buy refinement, karin, kisame, konan

arena shop- buy gnw sakura (this is really helpful), hidan, itachi, kurenai (probably bcuz i was able to make her 5 star from just pulls and survival trial [ez 80 frags]

ranking shop- buy hinata, gnw sakura, kakuzu, sasori

survival shop- buy kabuto, cultivation rune (if u desperately need it), suigetsu, deidara

i think focusing on 1 ninja per shop is better.. kurenai frags is worth 2 pts while hinata frags is worth 10 pts.. as for the sweeping plot instance, i think focusing on the ninjas you use the most is better (what i do right now is sweep kimimaro, hinata, sasuke, naruto frags then use my spare stamina for plot instance)

i want answers for this question

I personally sell all my level 1 and 2 runes and buy the level 3. Cause the price of 4 level 3s is the same price as 1 level 5.

for me, now. In the ranked shop: i only by GNW sakura ( she is bad-ass in ranked battle) after i got GNW sakura 4*, i start buying Sasori ( very good for ranked battle as well). When Sasori is 4*, i will come back to finish off GNW sakura to 5*.

In group shop, i only buy Konan. Konan is decent ninja for ranked battle if you run akatsuki/ tendo/ TAG / combo team like utakata, roshi, hidan both version.

survival shop: i only by kabuto and sometimes, cultivation rune when needed. Kabuto is one of the best healer in the game. If you use water main team since day 1 like me, water main-kabuto-kimimaro-ukon sakon, is the best team for strong approach at any level even expert as well.

Summoning shop, I will get gamaken summon first since it work well with water main, kabuto kimimaro and the last slot :ukon sakon/ kidomaru for strong approach.

For space time shop: get power up item after you get choza. Sasori 100 puppet you can get him from sage naruto treasure.
Seal scroll save it for 5 kage and Jin 1 - 210 pull roshi and Jin 2- 210 pull Han

Coupon: save up to get curse hidan first (~6000 coupons). Curse hidan is your best friend up until 90~100. Curse hidan, roshi will carry you through ninja exam lvl 120 and all the ultimate training. ( I finished ultimate training with water main, curse hidan, roshi and killer bee 7 swords team).

For survival trial, i use water main, kimimaro, either sailor sakura or GNW sakura, and tsunade or kabuto. Sailor sakura is free in lucky board event for around 4000~5000 coupons. After you get roshi. replace kimimaro with roshi. You c*e normal sakura until you have other sakura.

Strong approach: I use all f2p ninja: kimimaro, kidomaru, ukon sakon kabuto.and gamaken summon. with water main, curse marked, chaos passive and mystery: shark boom. i always ended up full hp team after the fight.

in all of the events, i always try to get power up item like refine, unbound rune, summoning scroll for rune, cave key, magatama as much as possible unless they have sailor sakura and curse hidan.

Tips: Tenten is a really good ninja if you like water meta: tenten. I dont like her that much so i dont use her. (team water main, mabui, Tenten and either darui or mei)

Last but not least, just enjoy the game and set goals for yourself, you dont have to compete with p2w players. it takes lots of time to get some ninja but you will ultimately get those ninja anyway. Don't over-spend on luck-based events for rare ninja, it's trap. Personally, i didnt get any rare ninja from those events

park (for future reference) ^^