There is nothing that will 'always work'.

Your bp and initiative all play into that.

If you're losing to 1010 lineup because your power is too low compared to the opponents you get, then of course you will tend to lose more. If it's solely because of the bottom row thing, go pull from Kage Treasure and up your initiative.

And use lighting blitz to kill Mabui before she launches her standard attack. So, overall. Raise your bp, initiative and go pull some ninja.

Mei, Mabui, Tenten line up c*so beat people who are about 10k more power than they are. But that is because initiative is too low.

I don't think power is always the winner. I've seen players who're around 20k power beat people with a 10-15k power difference or more just by using that team. The initiative comment I understand,
but the cliche water team does give people a chance to beat people they otherwise couldn't from the get-go.

Very true, I don't stand much of a chance against Sailor Sakura teams myself. I'm around 66k as of now, and still lose to players more than 10k bp lower than me. Awful.

Maybe the owner of this thread can consider carrying the same 1010 lineup/Sailor Sakura team lol.

I don't know if he's losing to people of a lower or higher bp.

Yesu, that is right.

Initiative is very important for this meta.

So from what I understand and the things I already knew, either go for some meta team myself like blitz or for some weird crappy combination of ninjas that include chakra stealing or immobilise but that won't be a all round balanced team. Well thanks anyway. I'll have to think about what I want to do now.

I use my danzo, sage naruto, sage jiraiya, fire main team. Danzo's chase can immoblize a ninja even if your total initiative is lower than the enemy. (so probably mabui or water main)But I guess i learnt something here in this thread, i'll try to use mirror return and see if it works.

Hello~

With regards to your concern, I myself deal with it by having high turn 1 initiative and combo, yes - it really counts, and by using the Chojuro, Ao, Water main with Gamaken, and Mei team. Position goes like this:

Main-Chojuro-Main clone
x-x-Ao clone (can be interchanged)
Mei-Ao-Ao clone (can be interchanged)

talent: 3-2-1-1-1 and gamaken.

If you can successfully proc a combo on Mabui at turn 1, then your problem is solved. If not, a good timing on Ao to GNW-Tenten is needed.



On a more serious note, please refrain from cursing as it is against the forum rules. Also, be reminded that you are the one who sought for help so the rude remarks are uncalled-for. Insulting others won't help you solve anything, in fact, will even add more problems. :) A little tip for you though,
"You are like this cup; you are full of ideas. You come and ask for teaching, but your cup is full; I can't put anything in. Before I can teach you, you'll have to empty your cup."

As the others said, Initiative. That's the most important thing. For a team that should always work, your first move ninja should have more initiative than your opponent. Then you move first, which is crucial in the 2nd round.
If the opponents on the bottom it probably means they will get to cast GNW Tenten I guess? I assume the thing that's messing you up is also the paralysis along with GNW Tenten's mystery. If that's the case, then I recommend using Gakido to clear the debuffs.

generally speaking, to reply to the main question : if your total initiative is lower and if your enemy have comparable or higher power than you your only hope to win is the naruto six tails earth immortal team in the hashirama wb asuma version. With every other team the loss is granted. Adding immobile or chaos or blind to mabui will just delay the inevitable outcome
This post was last edited by Zelgadis~ at 2017-7-21 16:42