In the long run ay is a better choice because even in chinese version he is used in a lighting meta

Uh.. no. The ay being used in chinese version is the 3rd raikage, who has the same name, but is a completely different ninja.

4th raikage ay only became good AFTER his skill breakthrough release this month. Looking at the current breakthrough prices.... he is still a poor investment for the cost.

Is sasuke susano any good then? I don'tsee many teams with him.

Personally, I like more the way i chose - chasing super rare on kage. Altough good number of ppl from my server went for Roshi, some for Edo, i kept faithful to Kage chest. In the end, it depends on your liking and some future choice. I dont like jinchuuriki that much really, running blitz and good ol' cursed team :)

I would go for Roshi and Han. Going for Susanoo Sasuke is 50/50. I have heard lightning main/blitz teams get nerfed in 3.0, not sure if this is true or not though. In the end it's your choice and depends on the ninja you own.

If I was you I would pull Jin for roshi and go to kage for killer bee and whatever is left save and buildup for jin 2

lighting blitz gets destroyed by obito since he can immobilize LM turn 1 and remove all his buffs. After that the blitz is over and your ninjas will most porbably rip the opponent appart. Specially if he is using someone like asuma WB.

For those without obito han's mystery removes all buffs so goodbye lightning blitz. In the end it doesn;t get nerfed, but we are introduced to obito and han who are hard counters. Specially han is achievable for most f2p.

The problem i have with roshi is that even though i have high BP, im not top 10 from my cross server bracket. So I'm affraid i will not be able to use him to his full potential. Specially since ivé been saving for masked obito (Please let hm be 12k coupons and not 16k >_

Roshi is very good to have in the long run, he'll get stronger when obito stops blitz teams being everywhere.

Han is meh for singles. He does NOT counter blitz teams, as it doesn't work on barriers, wb asuma, and does not remove standards from lightning armor. He's a lot more useful in ranked/gnw however.

SSN sasuke is a great blanket check against f2p meta teams.. but he falls apart extremely badly vs healspam.

4th raikage ay is bad in the sense that buffing him up does not yield as good results as buffing up your mb due to his random targetting. Running both him and a lighting armor mb get less done than simply giving your mb a 3rd buffer. He'll be good after his breakthroughs.. but that is way into the distant future, at likely a very high cost. (But if you need something to kill the coin cat at lower power than otherwise, ay is your ticket.) Ay would be great if he is any element but lightning.. but alas, he is competing with the one unit he cannot beat for the slot.

u will get him, obito and minato roughly will cost 10k each as ive heard and read.

If we continue to get the lucky star wheel with medium refinement runes in it at a very low price you'll have him for free in six months

Han + hurricane jutsu if you are breeze dancer or han + immobile mystery if you are scarlet blaze or han + ginkaku etc....

In terms of effectiveness Sus Sasuke and Ay are both equally * and expensive while Roshi and Han are both cost efficient and a lot better plus you can get both of them for just 420 seals. Han is probably the best tank in the game right now and Roshi is both tanky and does a *load of dmg. You could argue whether Sus Sasuke is * or not but considering how expensive he is and how lackluster his kit is it's just not worth it. And as far as AY is concerned just straight up waste of seals, he's straight up * just like Samehada Bee. This post was last edited by s73 kurami at 2017-7-19 18:56

Those teams die horribly to healspam; is free food for roshi teams, and does not even do that well vs sn kk teams or mabui 1010 teams because you have no dmg output yourself.

As a specific counter team for spacetime playoffs, it can work.. but as a general use team? It is not effective at all. (And even then.. you can still lose to a slot 1 iruka against a blitz team who has higher slot 1 init.)