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On 2017-07-19 02:32:28Show All Posts
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  • Waifuu On 2017-07-19 02:23:15
  • Let's get real here.

    SS missions aren't even rare, you have a 3hr time frame with 2 free refreshes. That's assuming you do not have time to play in the afternoon or evening.

    During this this 3hr period, i reckon you can get at least 3-4 SS missions on average.

    If u just spammed the 2 free refreshes, i'm pretty sure you would get 1 SS mission.

    I think you just want free refreshes so that you can pick the convoy with the highest coins no?

    And it is a joke that you are bringing in free refreshes for plunder which is real time so obviously it should be spammable. Or better yet, change the interface for plunderer so that SS mission will just appear and you can click plunder, no need for refresh. ;P
It's a matter of statistic.

Let's say that there is a 50% chance that a SS shows up on the list, probably an overestimate but whatever.

Most of the time, you'd be right, the chance of getting a SS with what you have + 2 refresh (3 sets) is 87.5%, which is pretty good. And if you wait a hour for 2 more refresh, that's 96.9%, almost guaranteed. And yet another hour will give you 99.2%

But if you see the trend, you will notice the problem, while it is approaching 100%, it will never reach it. For someone who only do convoy during one time slot, for example, the maximal number of sets he will see is 9, and that will give a good 99.8%. But that means that once every year and half, they will be without SS. That's just one person. On average, in a group of say 10 players, this time would be shortened to about 2 month. In a server of 50? About a week.

And remember, 50% is likely an overestimate. And tbh, most player don't stare at convoy enough to get the full 7 out of a time slot (+2 free refresh for the 9). So chances are, every week, 1 out of 10 convoy player or so end up not having SS.
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On 2017-07-19 06:44:24Show All Posts
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  • Qolem On 2017-07-19 06:29:39
  • Hey there,

    Before I tackle the question in hand, I'd like to voice an opinion here, which I'd say, convoy is much safer than plunder to do. For the sake of an example, let's * to SS convoy/plunder.
    While convoying, you get at least 15 coupons for sure, if you manage to complete it without problem then 30. You are able to ask for a support of stronger player, and have guaranteed rewards, plus no consequences of doing convoy.
    On the other hand, while doing plunder, there is a high chance of getting 0 coupons instead of 150, for the following reasons: You need to find SS convoy to plunder, which is not always so easy, and each convoy may be protected by someone stronger than you (unless you are top of the server).
    Plunder takes much more time, high risk of getting nothing at all, and on top of that, after you complete plunder, you are at risk of losing coins due to red name. Of course there are ways to go around that, but it's still an inconvenience. Just a tiny touch to fini* off, you get 4 convoys, and 3 plunders. That means, there is always a way to go unplundered, if you find a right time to do so ^^

    Personally, being in top 5 of server power ranking, I find plunder to be a waste of time and too much of a risk to go with.

    That being said, I apologize for this rant-ish part of my answer, what concerns a drop rate of SS missions, I agree it may sometimes be lower, but at the same time, the time frame for it is not small.
    Personally I often skip SS convoy because of lack of time, and just go with coins, which are almost never getting plundered, and much easier to get.
    I appreciate the suggestion to increase the droprate of SS missions though, thanks for that ^^
Can't you (request to) do a log search to see the exact income distribution of plunder vs convoy?

You and a number of others have often said that plunder is high risk and might not yield as much as people say. I find that only partially true, in that it would be true for many potential-plunderers. However, plunder is optional, not everyone who qualifies do it. For those that do in fact end up not profiting as much from it, they would probably switch to convoy at some point. So as it stands, anyone who still DO plunder should have a significantly higher coupon income.

So I maintain that plunder is supremely profitable and safe for the select few who do it.

But opinion are just that, opinions. You, however, have an opportunity to help prove it one way or another by mining server logs. So.... any chance you would do that?
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