It gets tougher the more your group grows in terms of GNW distribution. I wish you guys the best of luck in whatever server you are. It's hard I will not lie. But maybe we all get lucky and they do something about this. Thank you for supporting and sending your opinion. It does honestly make you feel bad when you have nothing to give to those who did just as much as the ones who got something. I guess you just have to live with that for now..

Thank you very much. Hope it gets changed, even if the rewards is worst than Elite, it is still something for those who participated. It should also make the game more enjoyable for us all.

Coming in first does give you one less pack, but it also gives you a extra Legendary pack though. But even like that, the cycle still annoys a lot of members from any group. It gets some of them mad that they did as much as someone else but has to wait another week just to get a pack.

Understanding that packs are a bonus from what you can get out of a GNW is a bit hard when titles, seal scrolls and benefits are available for those who do get a pack though. Some players really want the packs, and it's hard to do so when you have 1/3rd of the group asking for one and you have 9. Some players understand that they can't get one every week because others are participating constantly as well, others just rage over the fact they went 2 weeks without a pack and they're set to get one in the 3rd week of participating. It's just hard for leaders who wants to give all their members a little reward more than just those contributions. Thank you for the follow up though. Sad to hear you disagree (We all have opinions though, I respect yours.) but happy to hear that even after disagreeing you will share the post. Your one good Moderator from what I saw on this thread. Thank you. This post was last edited by 100***@google at 2016-8-22 04:19

They honestly do, especially if it's a HUGE group. Uchiha is now level 8, with close to 90 members in Server 5.. It's becoming harder and harder to distribute among players who participated 5 times, because there's so many. I don't get a pack until 3 weeks after I got one. Same with everyone else, this system works and players are okay with it, but no one likes it. It's quite annoying, because you want to win and participate, but knowing you will get nothing just make it seem worthless and pointless, so you might even skip it that week, and that could be the difference between gaining legacy or ruining your legacy as a leader/group in general.

Agreed with the company part as well. I am what most call "Wallet Warrior" It's fun being one if it won't bother you living your life. If I had 8 seal scrolls, 9/10 times i'd just spend an extra 3$ and coupons to purchase the rest to draw 10. I doubt I would spend if I had 5-6 and was feeling unlucky but 8 is a great number to spend and get something better. So either way, they will be losing and gaining at the same time. I do believe the players who would put a little bit of money to get 10 would eventually pay out the seal scrolls they gave to the participants. (Maybe 1-2)

Honestly made an excellent point. Since it's not RNG it would make rares a lot easier, but still.. They will remain rare. It's not like giving someone a pack with 2 Seal Scrolls will guarantee them a rare.. lol They're still 30-35 great ninja wars from getting a rare if that's all they do. That's 30 weeks. If I didn't get a rare in 30 weeks, i'd just simply quit, it would be meaningless if I have to wait 30 weeks to get a rare. It's not that much. It would still take more than 10 weeks if you are a free to play and want a rare. From free draws, Sage, ext. It won't be happening for around 10 weeks.. 2 months ish. It's not breaking the game if we have players getting a couple of Seal Scrolls every week. That'd be like opening 6 maybe 7 seal scrolls a week after calculating everything.

We do the same in my group, you don't have people get a pack until all the people that participate 5 times gets one, but that's seriously annoying and not beneficial to anyone who doesn't get a pack. Waiting 4 weeks to get a pack is ridiculous, and that's what it is right now for some. It's not fair for anyone except the ones that do get a pack. Developers have to start realizing that this will bring less people to join groups, less people participating, less players on the game. LESS MONEY for them. If they seriously want money and only money, they shouldn't make a way in that game that will make someone get mad at it. Because people could easily quit, and this game lossing half of the wallet warriors wouldn't be so fun for the developers. So keeping it this way will only increase the anger of players who sooner or later will realize that all they want really is the money. And they'll go search for another game to * those 500$ they have for Naruto Online on something else. It's going to come to that point. Sure a lot of people will stay and the income of all the developers will keep coming their way, but they have to realize that happiness plays a factor on how much someone spends or even how much someone plays.

You've clearly never won. It's 9 for first, 10 for second, 10 for 3rd and I have no idea what you get for less than 3rd place. First place gets 9. Just stop, if you've never won, don't argue with people who have.

You have it wrong. I don't know who thought you that to be a leader you must give packs to the lucky few. That person is highly *. A leader fights for fairness and wants to give the same to all his members. You clearly don't understand what this tread is for. Or even read the first post.. And if you did i'm slightly concerned about your reading and understanding skills, even though I don't actually care for you, it's pretty worrisome..

Let us all be honest.. No one cares for group points or group skills. I can get 350 + Convoy/Plunder contributions just by donating to the group, and that's more than enough with a cool down for a full day of group skills. Group store points are also pretty worthless, who wants those? Sure you get 5K every war if you participate 5 times. But not many people are trying to get Kisame 5 stars buddy. I have almost 30K Group points saved up.. I'll be able to get 2 ninjas that come out when they do.

Point is both of them are worthless to anyone who actually plays the game. They're so easy to get that we don't need more of those. Therefore no one's hard work is being paid of. Unless you get a pack. You must be in a pretty bad group in Server 6 to not have this problem, and if your the actual leader, I feel bad for your members.. "It takes me less than 15 minutes to type into an Excel Spreadsheet the times everyone participated, and then roll to see who gets a pack that hasn't gotten one yet. You have to do a little extra work? That's what being a leader means." That's one of the *est things a leader could say if your a leader, and if your not.. Don't try to be, just from that you should not be taken seriously as a leader.

Sure the leader can write down everyones name, but when you have 40 participants with 5 participation a week.. There's no way to distribute 9 packs among players. If you do it the only fair way possible, it takes 5 (Really 4.4 but that doesn't matter, rounds up.) weeks to reset. That's ridiculous when you have 25 participation during the 5 weeks and you only get 1 pack. It's completely * and your point is invalid because no one wants the "rewards" they're being given, because why would they?

Of course a paying player wouldn't quit easily, but for those who don't they are gone to a lower level group because of the chances of getting a pack. Because you don't need to win to get packs, you just need to participate. And if you participate get 3rd-8th place with 10 people at 5 participations. You're going to get a pack if you participated 5 times. So it's quite funny to watch you lose members because of a fair system you have but the game is like that and you really can't do anything about it.

I didn't misread a word, I actually read it more than once thinking to myself how could you disagree with this post, got a laugh out of it, but with all seriousness. If your going to allow/want leaders to continue to draw for packs it's basically saying only the lucky few would get it.

I don't understand how you can call group contributions useful from GNW.. Honestly if you daily donate, you'll have 500 extra a week, no matter what level your skills are. They can cost 200 to upgrade, that you'd have so much remaining it's ridiculous. Kisame is the only option at the moment but honestly i'll actually agree with you, after the market refreshes, I should be able to get Konan 5 star too with the amount of contribution and ridiculous stacking up from GNWs I have, which will make me happy, so that's not quite useless.

I haven't this is really my first RPG game. Honestly I have no words for your members.. LOL That insult was fairly *. Let's check out the video I posted, and see if you can even come close to 42 participations.. If so send me a video, I might even recharge on your account. But what you don't understand about this is that they don't need to be unhappy for me to try and give them better. That *ity of yours doesn't let that go through. Your a settler, you settle for anything. If it was giving you 1 group contribution you would be like "Oh it's giving me 1 group contribution.. I'm okay with that." proven fact is that people like you don't do so well in life let's hope that changes. Underachiever. Your really one to take anything, no matter how it may be.. That's not a good quality sometimes to have buddy. ESPECIALLY IF YOUR A LEADER. I'm really hoping for the sakes of your members your not. My group doesn't really need packs to show up either, but i'm not like you. I actually know how to lead and fight for what 95% of this community finds right. But that's alright, we'll be continuing the forum, I'm not making this for just my group.

I could buy myself Hashirama, Tendo and Sasori.. Not to mention if i'm lucky get one of every character if that's what i'd like I don't know where I said I was desperate but.. Just don't find it worth it. That'd be around 3,000 USD. For about 10 characters, that's quite a bit in my opinion.. lol

Like you said, not many P2W players pay for Seal Scrolls, unless you really want a rare, close to one and have 60 or the amount needed to get to 60-70. I would only buy a maximum amount of 5 seal scrolls when I was at 55 maybe. There's a lot of ways to raise power now, even Mood raises power. I'm not saying seal scrolls are the reasons why we'd all be happy with more packs though. I don't know where you guys got that from, but some people actually just wants to feel like it was worth their time. Most of the suggestions were 1-2 seal scrolls. Which like you said, will also leave you high and dry if your not close to a rare.

If you don't think I spent 4 weeks without a pack, I don't understand how you could say that. I don't care about packs. I would love to have more so more of my members can get packs, but personally like I said up there, i'm in it for the 95% of the people who play Naruto Online that wants the better things.

I have a Senior who does that and tells me who meets the requirements to get a pack. I already do it that way, I understand it's fair, but you guys don't understand that's not what people like to do. Making a random draw for who gets packs is ridiculous. I'm speaking for a lot of people when I say that. More than most. Are you really another settler? Quite funny how you think I made this forum post for myself. I do have the power to give myself a Legendary pack every week. I guess you actually think I do that. Which makes me wonder a lot of things, but it's quite funny how you only assume things instead of understanding/knowing.

Don't disagree with you there, refinements are nice due to having a impact, but some characters are just as good as ninjas, I'd buy Sage Naruto over Refinements any day.

I understand it's for those who HAVEN'T gotten a pack, I'm sure I didn't misread it, and i'm still going to say, why does it have to be the lucky few, because the odds of getting a pack when your in my group is close to 0.225 when it's completely reset. And I hope you understand that's not even close to good odds.

I won't disagree with you, I haven't played any other games similar to this one on PC. For a first experience this could be a lot better, without breaking or ruining anything. Well if I have 42 members showing up for 9 packs, they must all know they aren't all getting one, so invalid what you said about the difference in our group. My members clearly doesn't need extra incentives either, if you really think that video means nothing, i'll be happy to make another one and end up showing you 35-40 5 times participations a week. Our average for Saturday is usually 38-42 participants each round so, i'm okay with showing you that if a video from 1 month ago is invalid. Don't really feel like opening another tab for this, but i'm pretty sure I didn't say I was going to give you money. A KAGE MEDAL WOULD BE AWESOME, but if that's what your getting from this and my suggestion treads, i'm just going to laugh a bit. I mean, if this game wants money, why not make some other medals and more things like that? But this tread is to mainly help out the F2P players, if you didn't understand that until now, sure not everyone wants the seal scrolls from the pack, some people actually like getting a pack just because it makes them feel like they're not forgotten.

Greed for ambition is something I don't really have, just because I haven't played RPG games in the past, doesn't really mean much on this tread (Sure other games has it worst, I wouldn't doubt it. But it has nothing to do with me wanting to give more instead of less.) I've been playing online computer games since 2008, and since than, my resume on roles i've had is pretty impressive in my opinion. Ambition in my opinion would be asking for a lot, most of this community is not asking for a lot. Extra rewards for players who participate 5 times wouldn't hurt anyone. Especially the game developers or this company who are currently making more money than they can burn in a home with 10 fireplaces.

Thanks for making that clear, I didn't understand that since the post before this one, but good that we're on the same page on that, for a second there I thought you were going crazy, a leader who doesn't want his own members to benefit more in this game. Not really sure how much the CORE of this game can be changed. Well at least I got the message that I wanted. Which was you saying with those exact words that you don't disagree fully. I was scared and mostly confused.

Why are you always assuming things? "3rd place with most power means, most of your members didn't show up." By the way, we had 41 players participating I believe on the battle for the final spot. Most of your members didn't show up you said? :/ lol. They came up with a better strategy and won. Nothing about members missing.

Oh I did post that! Forgot, but even though you declined I guess that's still available to take. I can get 1 pack every 10 weeks and i'd be okay with that, I don't care for packs. I care for more packs, therefore more to distribute, therefore more players get it.

Well, it took you a while to say you actually think this system could be more fair and better. I was scared of you as a leader if 1 contribution was going to make you smile.. lol, the point I was trying to make is that if this game gives you more than whatever game is giving, it's still not great, not ambition, just facts.

Well, I know a S7 person has close if not 50K power, so she/he must've given a big contribution. I do enjoy how they give some money to charity, makes me want to spend a lot more than I would if nothing like that was going on behind the scenes, so I have to thank them for that. Good job.

I'm not the only one throwing insults by the way. I'm not saying any mod is bad, I had mods post on this thread saying they will help us out and I did nothing but thank them and feel gratitude and happiness. This post was last edited by 100***@google at 2016-9-17 10:37

Same here, I'm one to take and give. I apologize as well for not reading who you replied to.

So happy this is still going. Sadly nothing has been done, but we'll see.