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So like this is a bit far out there but im suggesting making Space time so that everyone can play in it. i think you should divide it by power and then make ALOT of subdivision so its cross server for exampe 30k power ranking brack 56, 57 and so on, make it so it just like the current space time with all the qualifying round to reach finals but makE it cross server with ALOT OF SUBDIVSION being able to view and all that good stuff. and then for the BIG FIGHTS make it like todays top match ups or something for all those 100k+ guys you know. This is basicly a remaster idea but i think if this it done this would make the game alot more entertaining. also add small rewards for subdivsion matchs like magatama packs seal scroll (or fragment cause i know you hate these F2p's) but atleast give them a reward each day same think for the matchup make them like 10:00 pm or something each day




If you cant undertsnad what im saying read the replies complaining about it, i wrote this at 4am and im not jesus so sorry ;P

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So its like...participation trophies?
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look like someone missed comprehension
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On 2017-07-07 03:10:42Show this Author Only
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  • NobodyReally On 2017-07-06 23:05:38
  • look like someone missed comprehension
No, you need better writing skills.

For example, what is this supposed to mean?

"...for exampe 30k power ranking brack 56, 57 and so on..."

I mean, I get the general gist of your idea, but as far as detail goes, it's a mess.

I'm also curious as to what you are using for viewing and posting on the forum. I know chrome have spell checks, it helps me a lot because I frequently spell words wrong. In fact, I actually typed example wrong exactly like you did, in the exact same way, but chrome caught it. It would help you as well.

As for your idea, I agree to a limited extend.
As it stands, there IS participation reward for the top 30k, which should suffice to catch all active players.
Personally, I feel that when there isn't a participation reward, then the competitive reward should cover ~25-50% of the population. Whereas when there is participation reward, 10-25% should suffice.
Given that, if your server cluster contains more than 1280 active* player, it should be split up somehow. I know this might be a problem for some clusters, but I'm also sure it is not so for all clusters.

Active: my definition of an active player is one who completes all daily quest everyday and, on average, miss no more than 2 of (including 2 of the same event) fox, sage, GNW, masuri, cat quiz each week. Do SA(if needed, I'm done with medium thread so I don't) weekly and convoy/plunder daily.
You'd be surprised at how few truly active players there are.

Now, exemption for level-suppressor must be made, for them, an active player is one who completes but not necessarily receive the daily quest rewards and can miss all the fox, as fox grants exp which might be undesirable (I'm not entirely sure if any of them lightly tap the fox for the magatama&coupon, since exp scale with damage if they only do like 1000 damage, it should be fine.)

Anyway, I am against the mentality of everyone should get stuff. I especially don't condone giving free stuff to players who aren't really trying. Granted, given the current way stuff are set up, players that work hard in later server might still not get stuff where as lazy ones in earlier server might. Unfortunately, I have no immediate solution as to how to discern that, except narrowing down the server range which will have its own problems.
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On 2017-07-07 07:38:52Show this Author Only
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-07-07 03:10:42
  • No, you need better writing skills.

    For example, what is this supposed to mean?

    "...for exampe 30k power ranking brack 56, 57 and so on..."

    I mean, I get the general gist of your idea, but as far as detail goes, it's a mess.

    I'm also curious as to what you are using for viewing and posting on the forum. I know chrome have spell checks, it helps me a lot because I frequently spell words wrong. In fact, I actually typed example wrong exactly like you did, in the exact same way, but chrome caught it. It would help you as well.

    As for your idea, I agree to a limited extend.
    As it stands, there IS participation reward for the top 30k, which should suffice to catch all active players.
    Personally, I feel that when there isn't a participation reward, then the competitive reward should cover ~25-50% of the population. Whereas when there is participation reward, 10-25% should suffice.
    Given that, if your server cluster contains more than 1280 active* player, it should be split up somehow. I know this might be a problem for some clusters, but I'm also sure it is not so for all clusters.

    Active: my definition of an active player is one who completes all daily quest everyday and, on average, miss no more than 2 of (including 2 of the same event) fox, sage, GNW, masuri, cat quiz each week. Do SA(if needed, I'm done with medium thread so I don't) weekly and convoy/plunder daily.
    You'd be surprised at how few truly active players there are.

    Now, exemption for level-suppressor must be made, for them, an active player is one who completes but not necessarily receive the daily quest rewards and can miss all the fox, as fox grants exp which might be undesirable (I'm not entirely sure if any of them lightly tap the fox for the magatama&coupon, since exp scale with damage if they only do like 1000 damage, it should be fine.)

    Anyway, I am against the mentality of everyone should get stuff. I especially don't condone giving free stuff to players who aren't really trying. Granted, given the current way stuff are set up, players that work hard in later server might still not get stuff where as lazy ones in earlier server might. Unfortunately, I have no immediate solution as to how to discern that, except narrowing down the server range which will have its own problems.
Well forgive me i was writing this at 4 am i think, i was lowkey rushing it i didn't have time to make a full explanation of the idea so i just crumbs a bunch of sentences with 'like' 'also' "you know" so the reader could hopefully understand what i was trying to get at. What so hard to understand about 32k power brackers? its a subdivisions for people with 32k power... and the being able to view part i was meaning how your able to view matchs like the current space time. Spellcheck isn't available when composing post, and as i said it was 4am.

The whole point of this suggestion was so everyone gets rewards even the 5k power people as i said horribly in the post their should be ALOT of subdivision for players, not just 25-50% of the population.

I dont think being active is how you reach the 30k feat, yes being active everyday could get your power in that league but not most people im a lvl75 with 24.5k power and i play like everyday.

I understand your view on the suggestion but please understand im not talking about making these reward super big for the lower leagues, like 5 seal scrolls no. When i say rewards i mean little but meaningful items like mood scroll, 10 steaks, ninjas frags...etc i want the rewards to scale by your subdivision.

Also when i say cross server i mean like every single sever in the game can view every single match in every single subdivision, i know this would be hard to implement but im sure they can do it seeing as they don't really do anything else when it comes to updates.
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But everyone does get a reward, at least top 30k people but no server has that many so technically everyone.

http://i.imgur.com/9VXTq6W.png
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On 2017-07-07 09:52:03Show this Author Only
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  • Dym On 2017-07-07 08:57:47
  • But everyone does get a reward, at least top 30k people but no server has that many so technically everyone.

    http://i.imgur.com/9VXTq6W.png
not those kind of rewards they are not meaningful at all...
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  • NobodyReally On 2017-07-07 09:52:03
  • not those kind of rewards they are not meaningful at all...
Not meaningful? It's the only reliable way to get tactic pages and adv threads without spending coupons. This is a cross server ranked fight. Those tokens are your partecipation reward and additional chests are the rewards for top ranked player.
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On 2017-07-07 14:11:03Show this Author Only
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  • NobodyReally On 2017-07-07 09:52:03
  • not those kind of rewards they are not meaningful at all...
But they ARE.

I personally always rank top 128, thou usually, as a ftp, lose on either the 1st or 2nd round of the tournament. By far, I find the time space credit I earn in the season, which is around 5k, to be more useful than the token reward I get in the tournament.
You'd literally have to get top 16 to get anything truly valuable compared to the tokens, and frankly it's hardly reasonable to make that sort of reward wide spread.



As for your reply to my previous post...
Where is this 32k coming from? Your original post said 30k... and then something about 56 and 57 which is what I don't understand about. Not only did you not explain what that is about, now you are talking about 32k... Did you even try to read your own post?
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-07-07 14:11:03
  • But they ARE.

    I personally always rank top 128, thou usually, as a ftp, lose on either the 1st or 2nd round of the tournament. By far, I find the time space credit I earn in the season, which is around 5k, to be more useful than the token reward I get in the tournament.
    You'd literally have to get top 16 to get anything truly valuable compared to the tokens, and frankly it's hardly reasonable to make that sort of reward wide spread.



    As for your reply to my previous post...
    Where is this 32k coming from? Your original post said 30k... and then something about 56 and 57 which is what I don't understand about. Not only did you not explain what that is about, now you are talking about 32k... Did you even try to read your own post?
Why do i feel like your all going against my 'SUGGESTION'

anyway idc anymore it was a nice try, and for the reply jesus do i really have to explain this word by word.

The 32k was a mistake i meant 30k as i previously posted my bad, the 56 and 57 was SUBDIVISION for the 30k power range i gave any example say each subdivision held let just say 1000 players for the 30k power range (as if:lol) when each subdivision gets full its makes a new one, hence the 56 and 57 its was just and example.

And no i didn't re-read the first post i just addressed the problems you stated.

Anything else you don't understand?

You got my using different lines now.

It.

Seems.

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  • NobodyReally On 2017-07-07 14:28:24
  • Why do i feel like your all going against my 'SUGGESTION'

    anyway idc anymore it was a nice try, and for the reply jesus do i really have to explain this word by word.

    The 32k was a mistake i meant 30k as i previously posted my bad, the 56 and 57 was SUBDIVISION for the 30k power range i gave any example say each subdivision held let just say 1000 players for the 30k power range (as if:lol) when each subdivision gets full its makes a new one, hence the 56 and 57 its was just and example.

    And no i didn't re-read the first post i just addressed the problems you stated.

    Anything else you don't understand?

    You got my using different lines now.

    It.

    Seems.

    Professional. This post was last edited by The SageArtist at 2017-7-7 14:29
wait, does that mean, following your example, there are 55 divisions "above" the "two" 30k divisions, implying there are up to 55k with above 30k power?

The exact values aside, is that the general gist of the idea? That the 56 and 57 is the "division number" (and then, perhaps, 29k being 58 and 59, 28k being 60 etc? While I don't think there are, for example, 1001+ 29k players, this is just an example, trying to understand what you meant)

In any case, it's REALLY confusing when you start in the "middle" using arbitrary numbers without sufficient sequencing to show a pattern.
PS. Number of player/division are written in italic whereas power number underlined, to avoid mixing of the two from causing further confusion.
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Hmm, i get confused with your idea....you saay that there should be more subdivision,right? I don't see the point why this will going to be released in future. Currently, 30 mins time limit in space-time battle is already enough for player to concentrate on the screen. And not to mention as if your idea will release in future, audiences has to suffer more boring f2p match(f2p has no much choice on their lineup). Audience only care about interesting match either f2p or p2w....no one will watch those copy team over and over again...So, if no one will watch those matches. why would oasis create more subdivision for player?

And for the reward part, hmmm, it seems like you are misunderstanding the reward pack in which p2w get it from space-time battle. In fact, those reward *s....only 1-2 sealed scroll and summon scroll...those will not help you to increase BP...just some kind of extra reward...what ppl really love about the space-time battle is the achievement they get it from defeating their enemy. This post was last edited by sk8erboil at 2017-7-7 15:43
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  • NobodyReally On 2017-07-07 07:38:52
  • Well forgive me i was writing this at 4 am i think, i was lowkey rushing it i didn't have time to make a full explanation of the idea so i just crumbs a bunch of sentences with 'like' 'also' "you know" so the reader could hopefully understand what i was trying to get at. What so hard to understand about 32k power brackers? its a subdivisions for people with 32k power... and the being able to view part i was meaning how your able to view matchs like the current space time. Spellcheck isn't available when composing post, and as i said it was 4am.

    The whole point of this suggestion was so everyone gets rewards even the 5k power people as i said horribly in the post their should be ALOT of subdivision for players, not just 25-50% of the population.

    I dont think being active is how you reach the 30k feat, yes being active everyday could get your power in that league but not most people im a lvl75 with 24.5k power and i play like everyday.

    I understand your view on the suggestion but please understand im not talking about making these reward super big for the lower leagues, like 5 seal scrolls no. When i say rewards i mean little but meaningful items like mood scroll, 10 steaks, ninjas frags...etc i want the rewards to scale by your subdivision.

    Also when i say cross server i mean like every single sever in the game can view every single match in every single subdivision, i know this would be hard to implement but im sure they can do it seeing as they don't really do anything else when it comes to updates.
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-07-07 15:01:11
  • wait, does that mean, following your example, there are 55 divisions "above" the "two" 30k divisions, implying there are up to 55k with above 30k power?

    The exact values aside, is that the general gist of the idea? That the 56 and 57 is the "division number" (and then, perhaps, 29k being 58 and 59, 28k being 60 etc? While I don't think there are, for example, 1001+ 29k players, this is just an example, trying to understand what you meant)

    In any case, it's REALLY confusing when you start in the "middle" using arbitrary numbers without sufficient sequencing to show a pattern.
    PS. Number of player/division are written in italic whereas power number underlined, to avoid mixing of the two from causing further confusion.
URGGGH IM I REALLY THIS BAD AT EXPLAIN

Im gonna make this tenten levels of simple.

Yes but no at at the same time if is there are 55k diviisions above the 30k power bracket then that would mean that 55 + 30=85k power bracket, if you meant subdivision then lets put it this way if there are 55k subdivisions for the 30k power bracket then yes that would mean there are 55 thousand pople with 30k.

No i dont want them to number power brackets the power bracket power would be the number its self example(10k power bracket, 20k power bracket...etc).

And no wait what how can the lower players have the highest numbering if thqibwacchxkabishj JUST NO i dont want them to number the brackets, they number the subdivision

Anything about this you dont understand tell me im here all day
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  • sk8erboil On 2017-07-07 15:41:32
  • Hmm, i get confused with your idea....you saay that there should be more subdivision,right? I don't see the point why this will going to be released in future. Currently, 30 mins time limit in space-time battle is already enough for player to concentrate on the screen. And not to mention as if your idea will release in future, audiences has to suffer more boring f2p match(f2p has no much choice on their lineup). Audience only care about interesting match either f2p or p2w....no one will watch those copy team over and over again...So, if no one will watch those matches. why would oasis create more subdivision for player?

    And for the reward part, hmmm, it seems like you are misunderstanding the reward pack in which p2w get it from space-time battle. In fact, those reward *s....only 1-2 sealed scroll and summon scroll...those will not help you to increase BP...just some kind of extra reward...what ppl really love about the space-time battle is the achievement they get it from defeating their enemy. This post was last edited by sk8erboil at 2017-7-7 15:43
Most of what you just typed is invalid but ill address it, the view system for the subdivision would just be there for fun if you ever wanna tell your friends to come watch your matchs.

And for the seal scroll part your completely wrong i just used them as a EXAMPLE and for f2p just saying but that would help them by getting ninjas...fixing your problem of no ninja diversity.

As i said little but meaningful reward you choose the worst example on purpose, why not look at the mood scrolls i mentioned.
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If this thread were to get noticed by qolem or someone id obvious rewrite it this is just free writing if i really wanted to try my hardest and get this idea out there id be in their dm's by now.

Im just trying to see how people response to this, and see what i can fix or un-suggest and as i said i was writing this 4am, in bed, in the dark.

Lol yes i know what these spaces are i was just joking.
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i will just not now need more 'feedback'
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  • NobodyReally On 2017-07-07 21:45:24
  • URGGGH IM I REALLY THIS BAD AT EXPLAIN

    Im gonna make this tenten levels of simple.

    Yes but no at at the same time if is there are 55k diviisions above the 30k power bracket then that would mean that 55 + 30=85k power bracket, if you meant subdivision then lets put it this way if there are 55k subdivisions for the 30k power bracket then yes that would mean there are 55 thousand pople with 30k.

    No i dont want them to number power brackets the power bracket power would be the number its self example(10k power bracket, 20k power bracket...etc).

    And no wait what how can the lower players have the highest numbering if thqibwacchxkabishj JUST NO i dont want them to number the brackets, they number the subdivision

    Anything about this you dont understand tell me im here all day
What is, then, the association between 30k and 56, 57?

How are those values related?
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