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On 2017-06-26 00:19:12Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Let us toss consistency vaguely out of the window.

Mabui (Lightning)

Source: Kage Treasure (common)
Traits: Female, Hidden Cloud


Skills:

Mystery: Ninja Art - Lightning Transmission Jutsu (40 chakra, 2 CD, 1 battlefield CD. Prompt.)
"Cause Ninjutsu damage to selected opponent's unit and Knockdown. If killed by this skill, the unit will not resurrect."
- Ninjutsu damage
- Counters characters like Hidan

Standard: Healing Jutsu
"Heals 1 unit with the least Life from your team and disperse all Debuffs on him."
- Nothing special compared to other healers really

Passive: Report
"Recover 40 Chakra points before action. Can be triggered twice at most each round."
- Labeled as "Ninjutsu"
- This basically makes her mystery free. She'll spend the 40 chakra, but regain it before she casts the Mystery. She'll still provide 40 chakra before her heal too.

Chase: Secretary Fight
"Chase and attack a Knocked Down unit, cause Knockdown.
- Taijutsu damage

Passive: Defender of Hidden Cloud
"At the beginning of a battle, generates a Shield to up to 9 Lightning or Water attribute ninjas from your field based on 30% of this unit's Resistance base attribute."
- Labeled as Ninjutsu

Mabui's stat growth from highest to lowest are Resistance, Ninjutsu, Defense, and Attack.

My thoughts:
Mabui appears to be a decently solid support type. The chakra is the most useful aspect of course, if you haven't figured that out from the meta Mei/Mabui/GNWTenten team. That said, from my perspective it looks like she could work well with most teams, as long as there is a sufficient amount of high chakra mysteries to make her Report useful.

What are your thoughts about this character? How does she compare to other support types?
This post was last edited by Dosu at 2017-6-26 07:46
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On 2017-06-26 00:26:15Show this Author Only
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i think she needs a nerf xD like wow 80 charka points each round?!?!
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On 2017-06-26 02:23:22Show this Author Only
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Shes strong in 1010, Mei, AF, lineup.

I haven't seen her success in other lineups though.



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On 2017-06-26 02:52:53Show this Author Only
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Mabui is the best Chakra givin ninja to me :)
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On 2017-06-26 08:42:42Show this Author Only
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mabui is very useful, i like her, i asked someone if shes rare but my friend says shes a common ninja,but i rarely seen her frags on events This post was last edited by ErioS at 2017-6-26 08:46
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On 2017-06-26 08:55:54Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-06-26 00:26:15
  • i think she needs a nerf xD like wow 80 charka points each round?!?!
why people like you exist? I mean if you' cant beat a ninja you will ask for a nerf?? Ever heard of Kisame? or immobile chase ninjas?
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On 2017-06-26 09:24:24Show this Author Only
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  • 清美風香 On 2017-06-26 08:55:54
  • why people like you exist? I mean if you' cant beat a ninja you will ask for a nerf?? Ever heard of Kisame? or immobile chase ninjas?
who said i couldn't beat her? id destroy her i said she needs a nerf, cause it wouldn't be fair to new peoples, people like me exist to point out stuff to lower IQ beings. Its a Ninja discussion thread you don't like my opinion use the dislike *on.
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On 2017-06-26 09:49:18Show this Author Only
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She should be rare ninja instead of common :lol
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On 2017-06-26 14:41:08Show this Author Only
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  • On 2017-06-26 09:24:24
  • who said i couldn't beat her? id destroy her i said she needs a nerf, cause it wouldn't be fair to new peoples, people like me exist to point out stuff to lower IQ beings. Its a Ninja discussion thread you don't like my opinion use the dislike *on.
Why do you want her to be nerfed if you can destroy her? And why it wouldn't be fair for other people? Even if you have her but you don't have a team for her it will still be fair. Care to explain why it's unfair?
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On 2017-06-26 16:38:51Show this Author Only
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Mabui is a God's gift to water mains ;P Her chakra gaining ability is absolutely terrific.
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On 2017-06-26 19:59:03Show this Author Only
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  • 清美風香 On 2017-06-26 14:41:08
  • Why do you want her to be nerfed if you can destroy her? And why it wouldn't be fair for other people? Even if you have her but you don't have a team for her it will still be fair. Care to explain why it's unfair?
she's a common drop meaning once any noob reach the point where they can draw her and if they get her its a huge advance over other noobs without a god like support
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On 2017-06-26 20:03:15Show this Author Only
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Best support for AF to date. Her chakra passive is what makes the cancer team, cancer.
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On 2017-06-26 21:46:20Show this Author Only
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Um, Dosu, she's lightning, not water xD
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On 2017-06-26 21:58:45Show this Author Only
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I use her in standart AF team Mabui-1010-Mei on Survival Trial :loveliness: . But with ScarletBlaze :P This post was last edited by HitachiUchiha at 2017-6-26 20:00
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On 2017-06-26 23:45:58Show this Author Only
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  • Naked Snake On 2017-06-26 21:46:20
  • Um, Dosu, she's lightning, not water xD
Thank you for pointing that out. XD

This is what happens when you do these things at 1 in the morning. This post was last edited by Dosu at 2017-6-26 07:47
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On 2017-08-19 17:46:07Show this Author Only
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Personally I feel like its a good thing that a less recognizable ninja in the Narutoverse has a big use in the game, but I stand to believe that Mabui has a bit too much going for her in her kit. Now, most people will point out that they hate the fact that she can give a team 40 chakra in a single round, and 80 chakra on round 2 if you use her mystery. This is mostly because of the dreaded Mabui, Mei, Tenten, Azure Fang lineup, but this isn't about that team. It's about Mabui; some people think Tenten needs the nerf, Azure Fang, Mabui, the whole 9 yards. I won't really touch matters on Tenten other than I think maybe her mystery should have a Battlefield Cooldown of 1 to have players make a more impactful choice between Tenten or Mei's mystery on round 2. But I digress, to me what makes Mabui a bit too strong in my eyes is not only the fact that she can give a team 40+ chakra in a given round, but its also the fact that she can disperse ALL debuffs on a target. Now, you can argue to me that I can quickly dispatch of mabui if I target her and her alone and take her out, which is true to a degree, but usually that'll cost you dearly since you have to make a choice between her or Azure Fang, or whoever else can disperse debuffs as a healer or Breeze Dancer, amongst other ninja, and timing is always key as well of course if you want to counter, so there are a LOT of variables to take into consideration, it's never as simple as just using a blitz team or a team with ignition, because if you're going in arena or SWB you're not always preparing to counter 1 team specifically, atleast most people aren't. Anyway... from the research i've done at looking at all other healers that we have access to in the current NA version of the game, only 2 other ninja disperse of all debuffs on a target, that being Azure Fang (Which is completely fine since she's a main character), and GNW Sakura. As far as I can tell GNW Sakura isn't quite in the meta right now, although I've seen some people use her as a replacement for Sailor Sakura, but GNW Sakura doesn't feel quite as strong as Mabui, well strength wise Sakura wins *Wink, Wink, Nudge, Nudge* anyway, Sakura doesn't quite feel as strong simply because her overall potential is designated around utilizing her Katsuyus with her buff and them overall tanking damage and healing the team. Some can argue this would make her stronger, heal and debuff wise, but I counter-claim since the Katsuyus are generally not that tanky and will only target the lowest life target in your team (not themselves) and disperse the debuffs on that target, and 90% of the time their usually just healing the same person so it somewhat loses purpose and they can be dealt with, with an AoE mystery. That and GNW Sakura has a completely different role than Mabui, sure both are designated healers but Sakura is meant to get in there and deal some damage while healing, while Mabui is an overall buffer. She gives shields, chakra, heals and debuffs, she has a lot more use in more teams than GNW Sakura (depending on the team). Overall I feel as though Mabui shouldn't be able to give BOTH large amounts of chakra AND disperse all debuffs with her healing, instead I think it would be more fair to make it so that she only disperses 2 debuffs at most, this would still keep her in line with the meta, making her still overall useful, and be a nerf in a way where it isn't too much, and lets be honest here, the only other ninja that disperses 2 debuffs is Shizune and nobody is using her (not that I know of). But at the end of the day this is just my opinion and my opinion alone, and i'm a man that spent 20 minutes typing this long winded paragraph that probably won't get read or noticed and i'm sure the few of you reading this will either agree or disagree with me, and i'm not saying Mabui is OP or she can't be dealt with, I would just like to see her toned down a bit where she is still viable and fair. If you're still reading this, than you Sir and/or Madam have a lot of time on your hands and are very patient, so thank you for putting up with this babble and have a good day.





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On 2017-08-20 21:38:48Show this Author Only
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  • Tsyukiomi On 2017-08-19 17:46:07
  • Personally I feel like its a good thing that a less recognizable ninja in the Narutoverse has a big use in the game, but I stand to believe that Mabui has a bit too much going for her in her kit. Now, most people will point out that they hate the fact that she can give a team 40 chakra in a single round, and 80 chakra on round 2 if you use her mystery. This is mostly because of the dreaded Mabui, Mei, Tenten, Azure Fang lineup, but this isn't about that team. It's about Mabui; some people think Tenten needs the nerf, Azure Fang, Mabui, the whole 9 yards. I won't really touch matters on Tenten other than I think maybe her mystery should have a Battlefield Cooldown of 1 to have players make a more impactful choice between Tenten or Mei's mystery on round 2. But I digress, to me what makes Mabui a bit too strong in my eyes is not only the fact that she can give a team 40+ chakra in a given round, but its also the fact that she can disperse ALL debuffs on a target. Now, you can argue to me that I can quickly dispatch of mabui if I target her and her alone and take her out, which is true to a degree, but usually that'll cost you dearly since you have to make a choice between her or Azure Fang, or whoever else can disperse debuffs as a healer or Breeze Dancer, amongst other ninja, and timing is always key as well of course if you want to counter, so there are a LOT of variables to take into consideration, it's never as simple as just using a blitz team or a team with ignition, because if you're going in arena or SWB you're not always preparing to counter 1 team specifically, atleast most people aren't. Anyway... from the research i've done at looking at all other healers that we have access to in the current NA version of the game, only 2 other ninja disperse of all debuffs on a target, that being Azure Fang (Which is completely fine since she's a main character), and GNW Sakura. As far as I can tell GNW Sakura isn't quite in the meta right now, although I've seen some people use her as a replacement for Sailor Sakura, but GNW Sakura doesn't feel quite as strong as Mabui, well strength wise Sakura wins *Wink, Wink, Nudge, Nudge* anyway, Sakura doesn't quite feel as strong simply because her overall potential is designated around utilizing her Katsuyus with her buff and them overall tanking damage and healing the team. Some can argue this would make her stronger, heal and debuff wise, but I counter-claim since the Katsuyus are generally not that tanky and will only target the lowest life target in your team (not themselves) and disperse the debuffs on that target, and 90% of the time their usually just healing the same person so it somewhat loses purpose and they can be dealt with, with an AoE mystery. That and GNW Sakura has a completely different role than Mabui, sure both are designated healers but Sakura is meant to get in there and deal some damage while healing, while Mabui is an overall buffer. She gives shields, chakra, heals and debuffs, she has a lot more use in more teams than GNW Sakura (depending on the team). Overall I feel as though Mabui shouldn't be able to give BOTH large amounts of chakra AND disperse all debuffs with her healing, instead I think it would be more fair to make it so that she only disperses 2 debuffs at most, this would still keep her in line with the meta, making her still overall useful, and be a nerf in a way where it isn't too much, and lets be honest here, the only other ninja that disperses 2 debuffs is Shizune and nobody is using her (not that I know of). But at the end of the day this is just my opinion and my opinion alone, and i'm a man that spent 20 minutes typing this long winded paragraph that probably won't get read or noticed and i'm sure the few of you reading this will either agree or disagree with me, and i'm not saying Mabui is OP or she can't be dealt with, I would just like to see her toned down a bit where she is still viable and fair. If you're still reading this, than you Sir and/or Madam have a lot of time on your hands and are very patient, so thank you for putting up with this babble and have a good day.


really good argument and i totally agree with your. having the ability to cleanse ALL debuffs not just 1 or 2 layers like 99 % of other healers / cleanse ninjas i think is a bit too much considering she also gives shields and also is the best chakra generator in the game as of now.


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On 2017-08-21 17:41:25Show this Author Only
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  • Max642 On 2017-08-20 21:38:48
  • really good argument and i totally agree with your. having the ability to cleanse ALL debuffs not just 1 or 2 layers like 99 % of other healers / cleanse ninjas i think is a bit too much considering she also gives shields and also is the best chakra generator in the game as of now.


1. Thank you for reading my post, I wasn't sure if anyone is going to read it or not

2. Yeah totally, I understand that Mabui's role is completely support but with all of the things I listed off, she has too much going for her. The only other characters that provide chakra are usually ones that require damage to themselves, a death, chase, etc. Kakashi [Makout-Paradise] is the only other ninja that gives a lot of chakra each round, his being 10 less than mabui at 30. But Kakashi is pretty much a meme character that is there for fun.

3. But this could all be for nothing as we might start getting new ninja/patches quicker and the meta will change in time, its just a frustrating aspect as of right now. But I know people feel the same way about the Lightning Main Blitz team, which is annoying but thats a completely different topic I won't touch on.


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On 2017-08-21 20:18:56Show this Author Only
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The problem is that she is able to clear all debuffs on a character just like water main's standard

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