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[ Suggestions ] 51k power in 70lvl SWB! Winning every time, SWB CHANGE

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On 2017-06-15 02:52:58Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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Hello, I think there should be SWB change. Purely based on power. Nothing else. Not level. Only power. Like .. who cares if it is lvl 50 with 60k power or lvl 90 with 60k. They should be matched together. Like ... I am lvl 80 with almost 50k but I am in a bracket wher everyone is lvl 85 but with 70k power as I am on the oldest server. And to me it seems unfair that my group mates that are lvl 75-77 and are at 50k power are farming 45 refines every week. I have zero to non chances to get it. No way I can ever beat 70k powers. But my group mates are still in low bracket. Getting 30-40 winning streaks, winning with one 1010 mystery. That is so unfair. I would haev to save couposn for one month to get 4-5k and then use it all on advanced refines while they are getting it for free and always will as they said they will never ever attend any event or daily or anything that gives expe, to never leave that level and just keep farming untill they got all items at 10 refines. That is unfair. Make it 50-55k 55-60k or something. Not based on level as since I got to level 80 I am only with the biggest p2w on this server. Which is also weird that they are always there .. like .. you said it is cross server. With what servers tho? Make it cross server with all servers .... so that every 50k can fight other 50ks etc. I am with people that got even 85k power at lvl 84. That is not fair. Totally not fair.
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On 2017-06-15 03:42:18Show this Author Only
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While i agree with power first, i think that some adjustment for level should be made.
No, lv 50 with 60k power and lv 90 with 60k power are not equal, there is a LOT of talent choices that the lv 50 don't have access to.
And, a more extreme case, is lv 49 60k poewr vs lv 50 60k power, it might be only one level, but as lv 49 lacks summon, a lot of team simply don't work for them due to lacking a chase (I'm assuming that someone who is ptw enough to get 60k power at lv 50 would more or less have all the summons)

So I'd say 2k adjustment for lv 50 and 1k for 53 for the sake of summon and a 500 adjustment for every talent unlock would be reasonable. So a 60k lv 49, for example, would be matched against around 53-55k lv 90.


That said, it still doesn't accomplish all that much, there will still be players who always win and players who will always lose. For example, ptw with 6 tail naruto c*ually beat people 5-10k above them. So a 30k power lv 50 w/ 6 tail will still dominate his bracket. In fact, such player will dominate any except the highest power bracket.

On the other hand, players around 50-70k will probably never see the light of day as they will always be stuck on the highest power bracket, one where 80k+ rule supreme (adjust the power number down ward for later server clusters, but you got the idea)

IMO, the EASIEST way to give more people chances in sage and make it more difficult for a player to always win would be to have a "winner bracket" where all the top 3 winner of the last sage are placed(in case there is insufficent number of bracket so there aren't enough people for this, then all of the ones who won top 3 in last TWO sage. Keep in mind thou that there are 3 sets of top 3 per bracket, so 9 from each)

That way, only the absolute strongest who would always win no matter what would actually always win. All the others will at most win every other sage, which I think is fair (considering that winning sage is largely due to being placed advantageously as opposed to power/skill at this point)
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On 2017-06-15 07:38:52Show this Author Only
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please tell me how i can win over people 99k players with 50k power when they 1 hit my line before i get to do anything on turn 1 =D
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On 2017-06-15 13:49:49Show this Author Only
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You didn't know how to play this game well, so you think that it's due to fairness? That too ridiculous.:)
You guys do not want to spend money and want to defeat others? Why? If p2f can defeat p2w, that is really unfair! So, if you feel SWB is not fair, what you should do is spend more money to become stronger. Or you can leave this game!:):):)
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  • vergil111 On 2017-06-15 13:49:49
  • You didn't know how to play this game well, so you think that it's due to fairness? That too ridiculous.:)
    You guys do not want to spend money and want to defeat others? Why? If p2f can defeat p2w, that is really unfair! So, if you feel SWB is not fair, what you should do is spend more money to become stronger. Or you can leave this game!:):):)
can't agree more, what a simple and excellent word!!!!
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On 2017-06-15 16:03:31Show this Author Only
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  • vergil111 On 2017-06-15 13:49:49
  • You didn't know how to play this game well, so you think that it's due to fairness? That too ridiculous.:)
    You guys do not want to spend money and want to defeat others? Why? If p2f can defeat p2w, that is really unfair! So, if you feel SWB is not fair, what you should do is spend more money to become stronger. Or you can leave this game!:):):)
Without free to play people this game dies in 10 seconds.
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On 2017-06-15 16:20:53Show this Author Only
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  • vergil111 On 2017-06-15 13:49:49
  • You didn't know how to play this game well, so you think that it's due to fairness? That too ridiculous.:)
    You guys do not want to spend money and want to defeat others? Why? If p2f can defeat p2w, that is really unfair! So, if you feel SWB is not fair, what you should do is spend more money to become stronger. Or you can leave this game!:):):)
Why can't there be balance?

I personally think that spending money should act as an accelerator. If you spend you grow stronger quicker, so there's still a gap. But, crossing the gap should still be attainable through heavy dedication and hard work towards the game.

But hey, that's just me.
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On 2017-06-15 16:27:29Show this Author Only
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  • ScarbucksCoffee On 2017-06-15 16:20:53
  • Why can't there be balance?

    I personally think that spending money should act as an accelerator. If you spend you grow stronger quicker, so there's still a gap. But, crossing the gap should still be attainable through heavy dedication and hard work towards the game.

    But hey, that's just me.
it actually is exactly like this, but we just dont have enough time between new systems updates for f2p players to catch up
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On 2017-06-16 03:21:19Show this Author Only
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  • vergil111 On 2017-06-15 13:49:49
  • You didn't know how to play this game well, so you think that it's due to fairness? That too ridiculous.:)
    You guys do not want to spend money and want to defeat others? Why? If p2f can defeat p2w, that is really unfair! So, if you feel SWB is not fair, what you should do is spend more money to become stronger. Or you can leave this game!:):):)
I would point out that a lot of ptw are also getting shafted. Unless you think players with 70-80k power are ftp.
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On 2017-06-16 04:45:57Show this Author Only
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The problem with SWB is that the only useful rewards are for 9 out of 75 people.

f2p don't get anything useful and never will because as you guys said, f2p can not beat p2w (unless p2w is a pokemon master or f2p has been playing for muuuuch longer). Giving medium refines (2-5) to participating players would be a big step in the right direction and would appease many people.

If your advice to people complaining about p2w v/s f2p gap is spend more, then please keep your comments to yourself. It makes you look entitled and arrogant. An online game needs players, the majority of which are f2p or casual spenders.

Playing in a dead server is depressing.
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  • Zelgadis~ On 2017-06-15 16:03:31
  • Without free to play people this game dies in 10 seconds.
You are wrong..:)
You do not have money, that doesn't mean others also have money.
If you do not want to spend money to play this game, you can leave!
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On 2017-06-16 13:29:09Show this Author Only
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  • ScarbucksCoffee On 2017-06-15 16:20:53
  • Why can't there be balance?

    I personally think that spending money should act as an accelerator. If you spend you grow stronger quicker, so there's still a gap. But, crossing the gap should still be attainable through heavy dedication and hard work towards the game.

    But hey, that's just me.
Browser game do not need hard work, it need money.:)
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On 2017-06-16 13:32:22Show this Author Only
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  • PraiseLuka On 2017-06-16 03:21:19
  • I would point out that a lot of ptw are also getting shafted. Unless you think players with 70-80k power are ftp.
So i want to say you do not know how to play this game. I am f2p and my power is 50K , my leavl is 80.
I can kill any people is SWB.
That just because I am more smart:)
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On 2017-06-16 14:48:17Show this Author Only
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  • vergil111 On 2017-06-16 13:32:22
  • So i want to say you do not know how to play this game. I am f2p and my power is 50K , my leavl is 80.
    I can kill any people is SWB.
    That just because I am more smart:)
Keep going bro :lol
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On 2017-06-16 16:25:34Show this Author Only
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  • vergil111 On 2017-06-16 13:27:53
  • You are wrong..:)
    You do not have money, that doesn't mean others also have money.
    If you do not want to spend money to play this game, you can leave!
I didn't understand much about what you replied, but if you think a mmo game can survive without the large majority of the players you are very wrong. A whale spends because likes to rule over others. If there's none else to rule over if not people like them most of them would simply quit due to boredom.
This post was last edited by ayr***@yahoo.com at 2017-6-16 16:31
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  • Zelgadis~ On 2017-06-16 16:25:34
  • I didn't understand much about what you replied, but if you think a mmo game can survive without the large majority of the players you are very wrong. A whale spends because likes to rule over others. If there's none else to rule over if not people like them most of them would simply quit due to boredom.
    This post was last edited by ayr***@yahoo.com at 2017-6-16 16:31
I am wrong?You are a poor, aren't you?
This game won't die. If you go to see China server, you will know that who are wrong:)
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On 2017-06-17 08:48:13Show this Author Only
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  • vergil111 On 2017-06-16 13:29:09
  • Browser game do not need hard work, it need money.:)
Why?

Why does it *have* to be so dependent on money? I mean, the company needs money and all, but as we've all noticed Oasis tends to lean more on the "money" side of things, which has led to an unhappy player base.
Why can't there just be balance?
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On 2017-06-17 08:50:39Show this Author Only
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  • vergil111 On 2017-06-16 13:27:53
  • You are wrong..:)
    You do not have money, that doesn't mean others also have money.
    If you do not want to spend money to play this game, you can leave!
I believe part of the reason people pay is so they can get ahead of others. If there are no others to get ahead of except for others with more money who can out-pay you, what is the point of paying?

Without the foundation, the whole system collapses. But without the top, Oasis gets no money and the whole system collapses. It's mutual dependence, as far as I can tell.
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Do not feed the troll.

This thread has gone way off topic anyways and should be closed soon.

Even with all our complaints, SWB won't be changed anytime soon, specially when 3.0 is less than 2 months away (presumably). Let's wait and see how the update will change things. If it is just as bad or worse, then we should really push for a change.
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On 2017-06-18 08:12:19Show this Author Only
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Hi to everyone here,

This thread has gone for long enough, I think.
We have received the suggestion to improve the SWB matching, will forward it, thanks :)
There is no need to continue the discussion.
Will be closing the thread.

Have fun in the game everyone, and feel free to let us know any more feedback you may have ^^
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