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[ Azure Fang ] Immortal teams and you, what's the issue, and how should it be fixed.

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On 2017-06-05 12:53:37Show this Author Only
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  • Beji On 2017-06-05 12:30:32
  • I can't really clearly see your HP in that video but is it safe to assume you weren't mooded Life? I'll confess that the Blitz team you fought did seem pretty * strong and the damage your sailor took from the repulse damage was ungodly. But if your life is in the 50ks I would say you aren't really using immortal teams in the way that I think most people have a problem with. For example with your power it should be possible for you to reach to the 70's or even close to 80ks. To be safe lets call it early 70ks tho.

    Also there is a HUGE difference between this double healer team and the triple healers. I imagine the results would be different if you had won the auto barrier. If only slightly. Add that with life moods and you see a totally different outcome.

    This brand of blitz team is only viable in R1 and it become a lot less effective after that round. Most players who use blitz teams will have Susanoo Sasuke, DP Hidan, ninja like that. When you mentioned dying in R1 I didn't expect this team to be the culprit even though it makes sense now. If you can make it out of R1 you should pull an easy win, of course that depends on if this team is also using Root. Considering the Lightning mains myst and attack choice I would assume he went for bloodthirsty demon instead but I cannot be sure.
My health was in 60k, it's true that my mood was on ninjutsu. But tbh, it shouldn't make much difference, if that Sailor is a 4 star ninja...
I'd use lifemood on my teams, but the problem is that heals are too low, and I get killed faster, ironically.
Results are indeed different from this team, when I use triple healer (aka immortal), but it still happens from time to time that my Kimimaro is blitzed to death round 1, altho that usually is with opponents 1-2k power above me.

Working on my init slowly, so I can start getting barriers, but I'm far from that, with my init being 20k below my power expectations :V

and the last, yes, it was bloodthirst here :)
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On 2017-06-05 12:55:22Show this Author Only
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  • warhubs On 2017-06-05 12:44:35
  • Hmm, never though this thread get this long, and have lots of known player and forumer i know or have interact with; reply with arguments and facts about 'immortal team'. Me, been using the setup but now i use blitz team instead for obvious reason (fast fight, can be used on many type ingame like ti, sw, 9tails, etc). Long story short, people tend to use (or mimic) team with the highest winrate (kudos to Kitai Suru for pointing this out) and yeah, much easier to be a follower then the leader .. until new and better tactic and teams comes out (Germany got the 3.0 update already so head ups).
    Like my old m*ways says to me : enjoy it while it last, or just endure it ;p
I can't disagree here, I use what brings me most wins XD I'm truly fed up with azure fang by now, so that's why I mentioned I try to find a team with better winrate, so I jump mains, ask people for some advice, and try teambuilding on my own :v
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On 2017-06-05 13:03:20Show this Author Only
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I do have *ternative team I've been experimenting with. Faster than an immortal team but slower than a blitz team. I've had pretty good results so far. It works pretty well against Immortal teams and blitz teams (As long as they don't have more than 10k power on me for the blitz (Oh and furthermore root of warrior. 10k+ power AND root of warrior seems to beat me so far.))

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On 2017-06-05 13:11:27Show this Author Only
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  • Beji On 2017-06-05 13:03:20
  • I do have *ternative team I've been experimenting with. Faster than an immortal team but slower than a blitz team. I've had pretty good results so far. It works pretty well against Immortal teams and blitz teams (As long as they don't have more than 10k power on me for the blitz (Oh and furthermore root of warrior. 10k+ power AND root of warrior seems to beat me so far.))

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Hashi.... I think I might need him for some cool stuff, my current roster limits me a bit :V
Team looks cool though :)
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On 2017-06-05 13:19:39Show this Author Only
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  • Qolem On 2017-06-05 13:11:27
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    Hashi.... I think I might need him for some cool stuff, my current roster limits me a bit :V
    Team looks cool though :)
I didn't expect much from the earth team at first, but it has really surprised me. I was a Fire main before all this immortal stuff happened then I spent some time as a water main, went back to fire and was just frustrated by the lack of originality both from myself and the community. Of course I was also frustrated by my lack of options. I do have some decent ninja but I am missing a lot of the current good meta ninja. So I began to investigate alternative formations and Earth main really caught my eye. Also I've had Hanzo for a long time and never really found a suitable PVP team for him until this team.

It just looks like a random assortment of ninja but they each play their part. And I am pretty proud of this team. I'm not sure if anyone else has made one like it before or not, but I definitely created it on my own without copying anyone.

Though it has yet to stand the test of time. It could very well die in a day or two if it fails me too often. Back when I was playing as Fire main I used Hiruzen, FM, Iruka and Hashirama for months. Saving my seals for Jinchuriki for all that time. But lately i've been pretty desperate to find a new solid alternative.
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On 2017-06-05 13:21:52Show this Author Only
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They cannot make changes at they please, if you wanna know what buffs and nerfs will come look at german 3.0 version, or ask someone from there. Just like we knew Tobi will be nerfed in 2.0, same will be now. Do not understand these posts with buffs and nerfes, think ppl are too much used to playing games like LOL and asking for nerfs on reddit :D
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On 2017-06-05 13:46:56Show this Author Only
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  • Beji On 2017-06-05 13:19:39
  • I didn't expect much from the earth team at first, but it has really surprised me. I was a Fire main before all this immortal stuff happened then I spent some time as a water main, went back to fire and was just frustrated by the lack of originality both from myself and the community. Of course I was also frustrated by my lack of options. I do have some decent ninja but I am missing a lot of the current good meta ninja. So I began to investigate alternative formations and Earth main really caught my eye. Also I've had Hanzo for a long time and never really found a suitable PVP team for him until this team.

    It just looks like a random assortment of ninja but they each play their part. And I am pretty proud of this team. I'm not sure if anyone else has made one like it before or not, but I definitely created it on my own without copying anyone.

    Though it has yet to stand the test of time. It could very well die in a day or two if it fails me too often. Back when I was playing as Fire main I used Hiruzen, FM, Iruka and Hashirama for months. Saving my seals for Jinchuriki for all that time. But lately i've been pretty desperate to find a new solid alternative.
My ninja roster is mainly Sailor + all Kage rares/commons XD the rest is stuff like SN treasure rares, and the free ninjas... and Hanzo... Edo Haku... about this much :v

Fire main is my ultimate dream goal, water main gives me best winrate, earth main has most oryginality with teams, I hate lightning main (a personal thingy), and Wind main is just not fun to play XD

So far I still have hopes for fire, altho the only team I made from absolute 0, was an Earth team of Mabui, Kazekage and Sailor...

That being said, good luck with this team, hopefully it works :) I'm testing now SN Mei Sailor team with Wind Main... just because why not :B
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On 2017-06-05 14:32:44Show this Author Only
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Immortal team is easy to counter using blitz team high damage dps like lightning can counter any immortal teams. No need to change thing here
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On 2017-06-05 14:54:48Show this Author Only
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Why... Is this thread even made... *Smh*
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On 2017-06-05 14:56:44Show this Author Only
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Opinion of someone who uses 6tails immortals team -

It's not easy to counter without having the ninjas required. Obivous Danzo and Sn Itachi stand out to chaos both tsunade and sakura then go to town on the tank but that's basically what you have to do to shut down the healing/debuff removal.

Ignite/Immobile are both needed in lieu of Chaos, and it needs to be layed down until tank is dead otherwise they recover. You may as well retreat the battle if your barrier fades and someone isn't going to die that round before a heal hits.

Hashirama is a great dice roll against the team, but he can still be rendered useless after the initial push by a Tsunade mystery.
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On 2017-06-05 21:06:23Show this Author Only
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My only issues with it is a time one and it's a bit 2 stronk meta wise. Yeh like some here say here it's 'easy' to win, but only if you know you gonna have to fight it and change to counter, while the waters just run it vs everything, so a lot of times you meet it when not ready and you just accept you lost, i think this is what frustrates most people.

And the time issue ... ugh immortal teams in sage (or just any timed event) should be banned lol, you only have 22-23 minutes for fights, meeting one is complete cancer to use the popular the word for those teams on my server. Seen gnw hit time limit twice and it decided field by highest hp because people using these multi healers with earth/water as well.
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On 2017-06-05 21:38:56Show this Author Only
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The issue is not the azure fang team, the issue is Naruto 6 tails, CF, Gaara 5thkk, bee sst team. That kind of immortal team is the real problem. How do you counter it?
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On 2017-06-05 23:52:35Show this Author Only
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  • S1018 Ambition On 2017-06-05 14:32:44
  • Immortal team is easy to counter using blitz team high damage dps like lightning can counter any immortal teams. No need to change thing here
Blitz can counter immortal teams, but it depends on the positioning, how often crits happen, when combos start, and power too.
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On 2017-06-06 00:22:05Show this Author Only
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you should be happy that buffed ninjutsu doesn't affect healing or else you'll face the worst
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On 2017-06-06 03:30:21Show this Author Only
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i think easy way to counter immortal team is to take out hokage tsunade :)
it works all the time :).
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On 2017-06-06 05:07:40Show this Author Only
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i don't know but when i use immortal team( and yes i used) i can go fap watch a movie eat and then come back and it's a win;P i don't think its that good if you can do that but i guess it can be countered by fire but not all have specific ninjas for example me,as a fire main i don't have a good team :'(
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