Immortal teams aren't hard to beat so stop acting like just because someone doesn't like them it means they can't beat them.

I hear weaklings complain about Blitz teams a lot but normally they require a power advantage to win, where as anyone c*e an immortal team. For you to say that Blitz and Immortal teams are on the same level of OPness tells me you don't understand much of the game at all.

They will die on their own eventually so its what ever...but you are * for bringing blitz into this. Ain't no blitz team with less power than me ever beat me. But those immortal teams can go from 5% hp to 100% hp in one turn, and that is with 15k less power. It isnt the same thing. Weak people say Blitz is OP normally because they don't have the power to beat them...thats just the nature of the game.

On my server a lot of the blitz teams have switched to immortal teams for Space Time. It is what it is. I'm certainly no fan of watching them but at the same time, in a fight its just about who is winning. But just because that is the case, it doesn't mean anyone has fun watching it. I see a lot of immortal noobs try to defend these dumb teams, but the truth is it is just a crutch. And in space time, those same blitz people who changed to immortal teams are beating those original healer ppl anyway. In the end it's pointless.

But since you claim wm's rely on their team so much let me illustrate something for you. (With words) Water Mains are actually the most versatile of all of the mains, because they can CC, anti-CC, heal and do pretty good damage with poison tai. And that is just one option...its not like they have to choose a field to be an expert in, they are all of those things at the same time. No other main can accomplish such a wide range of tactics. Throw in Hokage Tsunade with her chaos myst, group heal and healing tips with Sailor Sakura with all her OPness and you can see why many players arent too happy with the immortal teams.

And before I hear any crap, I can beat immortal teams but I'm a p2w. For F2P there is no hope. And unlike blitz teams you don't need power to win with an immortal one.

You reference the importance of "brain" and yet you clearly lack the insight to make a well informed decision for yourself. It doesn't take "Brain" to copy a triple healer team. I give a lot of credit to the pioneers of the triple healing meta, or even some of the double healing team creators like a player named GimmeCoffee on my server. Because they found good teams to use with the immortal idea. All the people that copied it since then simply lack imagination.

They see something that is OP and requires no skill (It does require some strategy but as far as skill goes, it isn't necessary. Imo skill involves tactics (And tactics are not the same as strategy) and these tactical decisions are often what you see as a clutch save for example..or a well timed interrupt, or a well timed manual barrier.) But my critique of these players is something I would also give to a lot of the people who copied the blitz teams.

Now you could ask yourself, what does this have to do with what I posted? Well, it is actually quite simple. You said that Brain was the most important thing to have when in fact I would argue that the people who copied the OP teams have the exact opposite of it. Any idiot can copy a healing team, mood life and win at round 10. The people with Brain are the ones who build their own teams rather than copy what seems popular.

P.s. The money still wins. Hate to say it, but the P2W aspect is one thing no amount of healing will over come. Push comes to shove they copy immortal teams just like everyone else and win. This post was last edited by Beji at 2017-6-4 18:38

I'm gonna take a wild (Not so wild really) stab in the dark and say this opponent who beat you in R1 with standards had much, much more power than you? Please, don't try to lie because I know from my own experience blitz teams with equal or less power don't do that sort of damage. (Unless of course you will admit to having a very clear defense or resistance deficiency)

Qolem I think you are smart, I'm actually something of a fan. But I approach this topic with extreme scrutiny.

EDIT: I have somewhat pointed out the error in bringing Blitz teams into the argument of immortal teams OPness but I want to stress a new point.

Bringing up another sort of team formation while defending your own, in this case the immortal team, is a clear deflection. Guilty parties often resort to this tactic to attempt to cast the blame elsewhere. But it is not a suitable defense for the clear OPness of Immortal teams. And I'm not saying you are the only person doing this Qolem, this comment is more directed towards the community in general. I can make many points that indicate why Immortal teams are more OP than Blitz teams, and instead of refuting the claims I make for some reason a lot of Pro-immortals tend to try to deflect the blame back to Blitz.

EDIT2: It's worth noting that I use a variety of teams. Sometimes it's blitz, sometimes it's immortal. Currently I am trying out a new CC team as an earth main. So, while I am a fan of the dying Fire Mains of this era I truly did make an effort to remain unbiased. Speaking from experience in using all sorts of teams recently it is of my firm opinion that immortal teams are more OP. But a simple experiment can easily solve this. Regardless of your power try out Blitz teams and Immortal teams. You will find that one of them allows you to fair much better regardless of your opponent. And if you look at that data objectively you will be able to identify which of the teams is more OP. Good luck my young scientists.
This post was last edited by Beji at 2017-6-5 09:42

I can't really clearly see your HP in that video but is it safe to assume you weren't mooded Life? I'll confess that the Blitz team you fought did seem pretty * strong and the damage your sailor took from the repulse damage was ungodly. But if your life is in the 50ks I would say you aren't really using immortal teams in the way that I think most people have a problem with. For example with your power it should be possible for you to reach to the 70's or even close to 80ks. To be safe lets call it early 70ks tho.

Also there is a HUGE difference between this double healer team and the triple healers. I imagine the results would be different if you had won the auto barrier. If only slightly. Add that with life moods and you see a totally different outcome.

This brand of blitz team is only viable in R1 and it become a lot less effective after that round. Most players who use blitz teams will have Susanoo Sasuke, DP Hidan, ninja like that. When you mentioned dying in R1 I didn't expect this team to be the culprit even though it makes sense now. If you can make it out of R1 you should pull an easy win, of course that depends on if this team is also using Root. Considering the Lightning mains myst and attack choice I would assume he went for bloodthirsty demon instead but I cannot be sure.

I do have *ternative team I've been experimenting with. Faster than an immortal team but slower than a blitz team. I've had pretty good results so far. It works pretty well against Immortal teams and blitz teams (As long as they don't have more than 10k power on me for the blitz (Oh and furthermore root of warrior. 10k+ power AND root of warrior seems to beat me so far.))

I didn't expect much from the earth team at first, but it has really surprised me. I was a Fire main before all this immortal stuff happened then I spent some time as a water main, went back to fire and was just frustrated by the lack of originality both from myself and the community. Of course I was also frustrated by my lack of options. I do have some decent ninja but I am missing a lot of the current good meta ninja. So I began to investigate alternative formations and Earth main really caught my eye. Also I've had Hanzo for a long time and never really found a suitable PVP team for him until this team.

It just looks like a random assortment of ninja but they each play their part. And I am pretty proud of this team. I'm not sure if anyone else has made one like it before or not, but I definitely created it on my own without copying anyone.

Though it has yet to stand the test of time. It could very well die in a day or two if it fails me too often. Back when I was playing as Fire main I used Hiruzen, FM, Iruka and Hashirama for months. Saving my seals for Jinchuriki for all that time. But lately i've been pretty desperate to find a new solid alternative.