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On 2017-05-29 04:16:49Show All Posts
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Guys and girls, you know- after first cross server Sage I was soo dissapointed in how it look like, in difference between power lvl and demotivated by how little chance of winning anything people like me have when put against players with twice of our power. I raged too, a bit. Not because of "I deserve this and that"- but because of what we were told- that we will fight opponents of similar power. If that was true- then yes it would be nice competition actualy and everyone would have a chance to win, with right play and hard work too~ But it's not soo similar power when you get squashed like a bug by 90+ BP player with your silly 45k.

But today I just shrugged it off. Did what I could untill got crushed on battlefield and then silently cheered and hoped for my group to win. We didn't have any Sage in our server for like two months, so couldn't get any littlest reward from it. Now there's little chance for few more stuff. And I know how frustrated are those who were winning a lot from it untill now- but it's right that usualy that usualy the same people were winning on each server, so it hurts them mostly. All in all- it would be all okay if there wasn't such differences in power on battlefields.
But hey... it's just a game after all. Some of us spend a lot of effort and time, sometimes money, for it, that's true, but really I don't think it's worth all this rage and fights on forum.

And last thing- seems that Oasis is just adding stuff to game according to schedule from older version of game- german, I think?- and can't really change/skip some stuff. So that would be add anyway, sooner or later. But then again- they shouldnt give false hope to players that their voice and opinion- polls and all, can change anything in it. People are raging 'cause many said no and it still happened.

Uffff...how about we all go treat ourself for some ramen and dango, and chill ~
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On 2017-05-29 04:41:33Show All Posts
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  • WhoWhat On 2017-05-29 04:33:11
  • The thing is like what stop sage on low pop servers is that there is low pop going to sage so low power gets roped in to high power sage, am I saying this is right by no means however this is how it is in the code, if there are low numbers for high power sage they pull in the next bracket and if is still not enough they again pull in the next bracket. I never said the current system is fair it really isn't it *s but it's what we have, complaining doesn't change it. I feel all the hate comes from servers 1-300 and like I said before should a day 1 player who spends be equal to a day 150 player who doesnt?
I think that Oasis would make a good thing if they did more explanation of how this system work- like you say, when there's not enough people on higher power lvl, there will be add people from a bit lower, and if still not full battlefield- then even lower. Or other way around. Number of players within each bracket is not enough so we get mixed with higher/lower powers to fill up battlefields, right?

Also, there's one thing that some people pointed out somewhere before- it was said that only servers that are 60+ old will get into that- but people claim that even newest servers were counted in. So, there still might be some other issues. Maybe some stuff is fixable?

And yeah it's what we have now, complaining won't help. Also- Sage is just ONE PART of the game. There's kinda still a lot other things to do and win.
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On 2017-05-29 05:58:07Show All Posts
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  • misakomomo On 2017-05-29 05:48:22
  • theres a big hole in that atm. higher up theres not many players to fill a sage maybe there is since i dunt have the exact numbers but ull run into sum sorta problem basing em on power high up :P they wud need to work on a solution for that.

Maybe if there was other nice way to get those * refine runes, then people wouldn't cry soo much~
Or like- you are send from your server to go to battlefield in cross-server, fight, gain points- then hop back to your server after event- and rewards would depend of how other people from your server did on their battlefields in cross-server.
EXAMPLE- let's say I got like 600pts~ and I got like 10-15 place in cross-server- but with those points I am in top 3 on my own server- and get some additional rewards according to that.
Or something like that~
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On 2017-05-29 06:03:14Show All Posts
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  • WhoWhat On 2017-05-29 06:00:41
  • soooooo what about the players on your own server who never got those?
    Guess they don't matter as it's only when YOU don't get it that it becomes a problem.
Well, it's just a random idea, so don't get all puffed up. I mainly mean that if there was more ways to egt those certain rewards- and available to all people not just top from each server- like other events etc- then maybe Sage wouldnt be such a drama.
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On 2017-05-29 06:27:08Show All Posts
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  • WhoWhat On 2017-05-29 06:06:09
  • You asked and answered your own question.
    By posting how you are hard done by you are crying.
    What could the low rank people on your server do? Pretty sure they didn't cry they didn't get a reward.
    You know what they done?
    They played the fukn game unlike you, you spoilt self entitled sh1t.
    As I said many times why are you better than others and what makes you more eligable for those items.... NOTHING
Well, well, since you are telling us all how spoiled we are and it's all about if we are getting rewards or not and that people here are crying soo much and we don't think about players who have no chance against us in return, on our servers,blah blah~~ Let me quote your own post when you moan about how not fair is arena cross-server system, 'cause it's impossible FOR YOU to rank up, to get proper match, that YOU have to fight against players who play this way longer already, how Oasis made it all unfair etc:
WhoWhat said: "Arena is simply broken with cross server you can be faced against people who have played since game release when your server only just gets cross realm open. I have done a few experiments with my main and a low level account with good power and a high level account with low power and the matchmaking system isn't what I would call a system as a system makes sense. It's more of just putting people together no actual matchmaking, with a level 60 I was placed against (in chunin rank) a player with bee and cursed hidan, since I don't even have access to that treasure and that ninja is pure f2p it shows how absurd the "system" is."

Were you not crying by a chance?~ And did you thought about all those lower power, with less initiative players, who have to face you in arena and have little to no chance for win?
Well, now people saying kinda same stuff about Sage- not fair matching, can't get rewards, rewards are a joke, have to face people who have a lot more th* etc...and you are attacking everyone who dare to complain the same way as you did.
HOW THAT IS FAIR TO YOU? WHAT MAKES YOU BETTER THAN SO YOU CAN COMPLAIN AND OTHERS CAN'T? :L
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On 2017-05-29 06:46:52Show All Posts
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  • WhoWhat On 2017-05-29 06:37:37
  • How far did you have to go back to find that? Yes quite clearly I did say that however it is a very different monster arena and sage are quite obviously very different and to compare them I would simply ask you how is it that an apple and orange are the same.
    If you think that is crying so be it I can't change your mind. However sage and arena very different and you trying to compare them to try make me look bad well yeah I have no words.
    I have not attacked anyone simply stated actuality if you don't like facts that's your problem not mine.
    Yes I was angry when I posted that and yet unlike your assumption I did not attack anyone.
    Apples and Oranges
    You also didnt see where I think the current system is bad and at least top 5 per field should have a reward, at least you ignored that.
    This post was last edited by WhoWhat at 2017-5-29 06:40 This post was last edited by WhoWhat at 2017-5-29 06:41
Well, whatever you think if it's similar or not, I can't change your mind~
People are angry now too, so why adding more fire by insulting them for complaining, when you do that too? And yes I agree, arena and Sage are two different things, ruled by different stuff. Personaly I think arena system is way better than Sage now- but only those negative points are bit itching :|
And all that I mean is- everyone has right to complain, tho there's no need to rage soo much as many do now- and you also don't like some stuff and tell people what you think, so let others do it too, without calling them names and such.
Anyway, sorry if anything I posted was insulting you, didnt meant to make you look bad but more- point out a flaw. We all need to rage wayyyyy less and just get into some rational discussion. Because we can't keep quiet completely about some stuff that are not really okay, but no need to start a war over and over.And I did saw that with more rewards to more number of people. I was talking about it somewhere else too. It's one of good ideas I think.
Peace.

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On 2017-05-29 12:59:49Show All Posts
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  • WhoWhat On 2017-05-29 10:08:35
  • What you need to understand is that I get why people are upset with sage and again I have not had a go at anyone at all whatsoever. The rewards for new sage like I said are well crap and need to be extended to more people. Feel free to bite my head off however what angers me are the people who on their server dominated and not once did they ever try to get the lower people more rewards and now they have an actual fight to get a reward they cry and play victim like they are more deserving of a reward than anyone else.
No, it's you who keep attacking people here like if you wanted to bite our heads off and it's you who don't get something what most of us mean- nobody is crying like if they deserve reward more than anyone but that those chances for it dropped drastically and that people feel deceived because there's difference in what Oasis told us for it to be and how it look like. What some people are trying to show in their posts, including me- is why it's like that, how that system work- and that main problem is lack of players with certain, high power, it seems. And that old system of rewards just won't go well with it now.

And what makes you think that any of us was dominating and winning on their server in Sage before that and never thought about lower ranks? I'm one of those who always was lower and didn't had much chance to win- yet, since I was playing on server with people who started more or less the same time as me- it was feeling more fair that I might lose to people who just are better at it, put more effort and time into game. And eventualy I got strong enough to win some stuff there + higher ranks quitting got me rank up on my own. And now it just doesn't feel soo fair to be against all those "giants" with no chance to win. But as I mentioned in my first post- I shrugged it off and just keep on playing and that's what I'm suggesting untill maybe we will get some better solution for it.
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On 2017-05-29 14:41:59Show All Posts
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  • WhoWhat On 2017-05-29 06:00:41
  • soooooo what about the players on your own server who never got those?
    Guess they don't matter as it's only when YOU don't get it that it becomes a problem.
Hmmm, taking a look at ranking after yesterday's Sage- looks like people from server who wouldn't have bigger chance to win and never get top 3 till now- with this idea of mine would actualy get it~
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On 2017-05-31 13:59:16Show All Posts
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  • WhoWhat On 2017-05-31 13:34:23
  • No I am not a top spender I am a moderate spender at best however I use my spend until the last week for ninja and only on events that give other rewards aswell. So your comments are not on ly arrogant but extremely condescending. If you had a clue you would know that the higher powers cannot see the low powers in the same sage, but you know you rather play victim than actualy have a look at the reality
    Even if I am wrong isnt getting a sage cos you like many others cry that they got no sage better than not having said sage?
    you know you issuue it's this "If you don't have any complaints/criticism" all you want to do is complain you don't want any sort of resolution you just want to have a full *n cry and everyone else should listen because feels.
    Wish I took SS of my alt and main in same battlefield and yet against different people, maybe you self entitled "coughs" would shut up then. Probably not.
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Higher powers cannot see low on same Sage? What a bs. Last Sage- player from top got 3 wins before most of people end their first fight- and people were talking on chat that they just got opponent with like 25k power. Even I have 46k. Then there's strong group of people with 70+. Tell me more how lower rank cannot meet higher. One Sage I was lucky enough to get few opponents more or less on same rank as me- then got caught by someone with twice power of mine. Yesterday- 70+ from beggining.

And that "having this Sage is better than none" was about servers which didn't have any Sage. People were not crying to have any Sage, and voted against cross server, as said many times. And many people in here and other threads actualy shows some solutions, better or not, ideas of what could make it better- but thing is and what we really "cry" about- that Oasis seems to do not listen to people, doing things against players. People are talking about better rewards to be added, cross-server just for servers which cannot start it on their own, less people per battlefield, so it won't have to be filled with players with such difference in power. I don't know about you, but those are solutions and it would be nice if Oasis took a look, started discussion about it or anything to show people that they mean anything.
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On 2017-05-31 14:23:56Show All Posts
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  • WhoWhat On 2017-05-31 14:16:16
  • You fail to notice cross sage was ALWAYS going to happen our mods got it pushed back and considering the playing population is at least 10 to 20 times the form population you again have failed Oasis are basically moderators of the game it isn't theirs it belongs to tencent. How many times do you want to be wrong? seriously.
Just because something is going to happen, doesn't mean we have to be all happy about the way it ended to be and have no rights to talk about what we don't like and what could be fixed. Discussion about it- is something we need, if there's a way that Oasis can make it better or not- we can't be 100%. What you call "crying"- while yes, there's big amount of people who just cry, but then there's people who can put up a discussion about it's flaws, solutions and who would be more than happy for Oasis to come more open about everything and what can be done or will it stay this way.
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On 2017-05-31 14:41:32Show All Posts
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  • WhoWhat On 2017-05-31 14:28:58
  • I seriously think you whinge for the sake of whinging. You cry about everything. You are clearly a spoilt child who got everything their way.
Ah yes we all are just spoiled kids, who just cry for more, yes sir So-Mature-And-Better-Than-We-All, you are soo * right ;)
Yes I do hella cry now, I want my rewards back!! All of them which I never got in first place anyway!! Oasis soo *, they should give EVERYONE all those refine runes, why do we have to even fight and try for anything!! And I'm such a crybaby, ofc I can beat 90k power with ease, I'm just too * to not play on auto :'(
You are soo right in everything, sir, I'm soo sorry for having different opinion than you and that I dare to oppose your constant attacks on all of people who share their opinion. Please, guide us and show more of how * ducks we are!
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On 2017-05-31 15:06:52Show All Posts
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  • Deculture On 2017-05-31 14:57:45
  • What people seem to not realize is that Oasis is simply a publisher of the game, not a developer. They can't do game sweeping changes even if they wanted to. At best, they could submit a request to the CN developers and have them alter things specifically for the global version. However, as you can imagine the likelihood that China will go through with their request is probably not too great, as they'd be making code changes just for our version alone.
And this is the info that we need- can Oasis change anything or not, can they really choose what they add to game or not. Because they gave impression that players can choose if something will happen or not- with that infamous poll about Sage. If they really can't change anything, then we just have to wait for other things to come and hope it will all work better. I bet that in China's version it's all working better, also due to fact of bigger playerbase maybe? Also, someone mention that we get our version from german one- so like, copy of a copy, not straight from China. But still it's original developer to decide, right?
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On 2017-05-31 15:13:19Show All Posts
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  • YaEl! On 2017-05-31 15:07:29
  • I love the cross server Sage. It solved our problem of never having a Sage war. My server is dead so the cross server arena and Sage war is a blessing for us. If I just happened to kick someone buns from an active server, I'm ok with it and you should be too lol. The server merges take to long to do so this is Oasis band-aid to remedy that and keep some of their spenders who haven't jumped ship yet.
I agree that it is not entirely bad and wrong- I'm from one of those servers which didn't have any Sage for a long time. Now, tho with little dissapointment, we can join it too and hope for best. And yes server merges are slow, way too slow...
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